Know anything? :)
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
I know he was was working on Shortbus, the film he's making that's supposed to have real sex in it. That's all I got.
Why can't they just fake it?
I saw him like a year and a half ago; he's brilliant!
He is friends with my friends dad, and the last time I saw him, we didn't really duscuss any work of his.
Well I've been looking forward to Shortbus if it makes it..and yeah I know he's hot
One brilliant man.
Brilliant? When is filming people copulating a sign of genius ? What has happened to art in this country? Mitchell is just another example of our sad moral decline in the abyss.
He was a BRILLIANT performer in Hedwig.
To each person their own opinions :)
Maybe you should let people decide their own morals, isntitromantic, rather than using a religion that many people don't subscrible to. If you have a problem with people "declining in the abyss" perhaps you shouldn't visit this board. Go live in a red state.
Broadway Star Joined: 10/23/05
Oh, isntitromantic ...
John Cameron Mitchell is an amazing guy! I can only hope Shortbus goes well for him!
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/21/06
I watched Shortbus last night. I have to say it is a very interesting film. Yes, there are graphic depictions of sex acts. Unlike porn, it doesn't necessarily sexually arouse. It does however arouse emotionally and mentally. The film was funny and moving at the same time. Although there wasn't much of a plot, it was more a character exploration and seeing them go through their journeys of sexual exploration or expansion. The movie was joyous with a hint of sadness in the end. Part of me wishes that the place Shortbus (like a cabaret-setting) actually existed.
After the film, JCM got up on stage and spoke about the film and answered questions. Frankly, he was quite dull although I applaud his vision and bravery in trying to get this film made. I believe it premieres in NY next week and would love to see what other people thought abt. this movie.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/27/05
"If you have a problem with people "declining in the abyss" perhaps you shouldn't visit this board."
And what, bobbybubby? Stick our heads in the sand like you while the world goes to hell? Or, considering your blithe amoral position, should I call you Sally Bowles?
Herr Issy-voo
Berlin, Germany
Updated On: 9/22/06 at 07:41 PM
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isntitromantic and EnchantedHunter, are you the same person?
Please tell me there's not more of you here.
I saw the trailer for Shortbus last weekend. It looks good, and the reviews have been good too.
Please, let's keep moralism and art appreciation separate.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/27/05
Art IS morality and theater is the most moral of the arts. Art speaks to the universal human condition which is essentially moral---no morality, no art. You can have an audience that individually are comprised of 500 morons. But when they come together in the dark, a mass unconsciousness takes over that can spot a phony a mile off. Theater is fundamentally a platform for truth and truth is at the heart of morality.
Allison MacKenzie
Peyton Place, New Hampshire
TONY gave Shortbus four out of five stars. I'm anxious to see it after reading the review.
Broadway Star Joined: 1/20/06
Can we stop throwing around words like moral or hell? And can we not compare BobbyBubby to Sally Bowles in a demeaning way?
If you think that depicting real sex on a screen is "wrong" then that is your opinion, but no one is going to your hell for it, and there is not such thing as moral just because your Bible or whatever says so. It's a matter of belief and don't try to fixate that belief on those who are confident enough not to guard behind any words like "morality" or "hell" to pretend we're better than others.
I am glad films like Shortbus are being made. If you're against it, then don't watch it, period. But don't go around trying to discourage people from seeing an act that is as human (or even more than human) as eating on a movie screen. If you think sex is wrong or taboo, then don't have it, but don't make a big deal out of people who do. It's as simple as that.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/27/05
Don't get your panties in a twist, Fosca. It's apparent that your understanding of the term 'moral' and 'morality' and even 'hell' is a simplistic, limited, and literal one since they have absolutely nothing to do with 'belief' or religion or dogma or sex or anything of the sort. I couldn't give a rat's ass about SHORTBUS--I like my pornography devoid of story and packed with hardcore pounding, if you please--but was responding to marlomanner's statement about keeping art and morality separate, which is an absurd notion. And if BobbyBubby is going to suggest one should simply turn a blind eye to or ignore 'morally' questionable (at best) situations, then lobbying a charge of Sally Bowles at him/her is perfectly justified. And, FYI, I'll continue to voice my opinion on any topic I damn well choose. As George Bernard Shaw said, if you don't like it, you can lump it.
Catherine Sloper
Washington Square, NYC
Stand-by Joined: 5/18/06
I don't disagree with sex on film, but I have to say that I do believe filming sex acts between various couplings (some of the same partners with other partners in the same project) tiptoes across the line. Where is the line between pornography and "Art"? No wonder this film has not been rated.
I remember reading an article on this film from a while back when JCM mentions that rehearsals were interesting, since everyone just started having sex with each other. If you were trying to explore sexual exploration between new partners, wouldn't you want to capture that initial contact? If you can have sex in rehearsal and then reenact it on film, why can't it be simulated from the get-go?
It's all very interesting.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
" don't disagree with sex on film, but I have to say that I do believe filming sex acts between various couplings (some of the same partners with other partners in the same project) tiptoes across the line. Where is the line between pornography and "Art"?"
What line would that be, and who drew it? The term "morals" is misleading at best, because its meaning is defined by the individual. Morals are an inherent sense of what's right and wrong, and can only be measured at the individual level. Just because someone thinking having live sex in a film is immoral doesn't mean someone else doesn't. I mean, realistically speaking, what's the difference between two actors having sex in a film and two actors eating a hamburger on screen? Both are very real, very human acts. Why do some people find sex so offensive? I just don't understand. Hell, a vegetarian or a vegan may find the eating of a hamburger more offensive. If you don't want to see something that might offend you, then don't go see the film. It really is THAT simple. It's like the right-wing neocons who oppose gay marriage. If you don't like it, don't have one! Imposing one's own moral code on society as a whole is unproductive and potentially harmful. When one lives in a free society, one has to accept that there will be times that people do things that would offend, if not, there really isn't any freedom.
Understudy Joined: 5/13/03
John Cameron Mitchell had the NYC premiere of his new film "Shortbus" on Tuesday.
If you want to come see him, he will be appearing at the IFC Center (West 4th & 6th) for the return of The Midnight Checkout Queens, NYC's only Hedwig shadowcast. The shows are this Friday and Saturday at midnight. Burlesque star "Darlinda Just Darlinda" will be performing Friday night and John Cameron Mitchell will be there in person Saturday night to do an informal Q&A before the show.
Come out in you glam best and have a ball with us!!!
Understudy Joined: 12/31/69
he was delighted when ass director his "cast began having sex with each other during rehearsals"
that's really quite precious --- doesn't anyone remember AIDS? How in twenty short years we have made such strides being accepted as a community, now we have this self-absorbed jerk cheapening the most intimate form of self-expression in the name of "art"
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/21/06
Well, if you see the movie, you'll see that he isn't cheapening it. His intention was to celebrate sex & sexuality as a positive thing rather than how it's usually portrayed in films. In many cases, if sex is shown in film, it leads to someone being killed, tortured, raped, or something similar. While the orgies do occur in the background of the film, not all of the main characters express their sexuality by joining in that event. In the end, it is more of an emotional journey rather than an erotic one. Don't judge too soon without having seen the film first with an open mind.
Stand-by Joined: 5/18/06
I guess it is a moral issue with me, as I still see sex as something to be shared between two people. Not two people, a crew and a camera. . .and then again with another person, the same crew, and a camera. AND THEN, the entire cast, the crew, the camera.
I still will see the movie to judge for myself. Just find the whole venture very interesting.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
"I guess it is a moral issue with me, as I still see sex as something to be shared between two people. Not two people, a crew and a camera. . .and then again with another person, the same crew, and a camera. AND THEN, the entire cast, the crew, the camera."
This is an excellent illustration of my point. Not everyone shares your view, but you aren't (at least seemingly) trying to force your moral view on others, nor are you calling those who disagree with you immoral. It shows that no one has ownership of the word "moral" because it is not the same for everyone. It is much like the word "beauty", which cannot be conclusively defined because no one is the same.
However, to play devil's advocate, who says that sex only has to be between two people? :o)
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/27/05
"ass director"
As unconscious and apt description as any.
John Ford
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