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#26

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 1:49pm

By "rapped", don't they just mean sort of talked-sung? Like whoever played Morrible in Wicked that couldn't sing? Because as much as I'd like somebody who can do the music justice, if they insist on using someone who can't sing I'd rather see it "rapped" than see him attempt to sing it.
#27

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 1:56pm

Everyone simmer down.

Sondheim leaves next week to prepare for the Feb recording. I think he knows what he's doing...

Don't put too much trust in that article.
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#28

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 1:57pm

Well, the movie versions of his A Little Night Music and A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum are not exactly faith enducing properties.
Begin at the beginning and go on till you come to the end: then stop.
#29

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 1:58pm

I'm sure it will be fine if it happens. If you all LOVE Sondheim and think he's absolutely brilliant, then I'm sure he will make this work.
"If it walks like a Parks, if it wobbles like a Parks, then it's definitely fat and nobody loves it." --MA
#30

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 2:00pm

kill me know, this is why people don't take musical theatre serious anymore...ugh o well I guess we will just have to wait till it comes out..
"Passion can drive you crazy but is there any other way to live"
#31

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 2:02pm

I knew **** like this would happen! When I found out, I flipped my wig. Why can't they just cast some ACTUAL talent...it IS after all a MUSICAL!
Now all I see are cute boys with short haircuts in a maze of their own...
#33

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 2:04pm

Okay, is it really that big of a deal if Pirelli doesn't sing? No. In fact, the song is almost sung as if he were talking anyway, and will still be as effective if talked.
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#36

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 2:15pm

They didn't have to get Sacha Baron Cohen for this! They just saw that Borat was a hit so they got him! They could've just cast Johnny Depp and the rest be musical theatre talents and a million people still would've come!

But who knows? Johnny and Sacha might suprise us. Remember when it was first announced that Eddie Murphy was going to be in Dreamgirls and everyone fipped out? Now he's being nominated for a Golden Globe! And like a lot of people have said, Sondheim knows what he is doing.
"I'm tellin' you, the only times I really feel the presence of God are when I'm having sex and during a great Broadway musical." - Nathan Lane - Jeffrey
#38

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 2:18pm

Yea, but how much pull does Sondheim actually have. Just because its his movie doesn't mean he gets fulls creative and casting control for the film.

I thought Eddie was perfect, because he IS a singer, and had a music career before a movie career.

I can handle a lot when it comes to movie musicals, but for the LOVE OF THEATER...please let's not have him RAP!
Now all I see are cute boys with short haircuts in a maze of their own...
#39

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 2:18pm

But everyone knew it was going to be a hit and he was cast like a week before it was released!
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#40

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 2:20pm

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#42

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 2:26pm

Sondheim was very much a part of casting. Much more so than previous films of his.

I've said before--this script is very different than the show. It's fantastic, fun and scary.
"It's not so much do what you like, as it is that you like what you do." SS

"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana." GMarx
#43

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 3:40pm

Why are we all trusting a website nobody's ever heard of and freaking out about an article that begins with "“Pirelli is a NOTORIOUSLY demanding role with some difficult songs.'"?

Since when has Pirelli been notoriously demanding. Some difficult songs? He has A SINGLE song, which is is kind of semi-spoken to begin with.
#44

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 3:49pm

I honestly would rather them dub him like they did in the 30's and 40's (Or whenever all those movie musicals were made). Or for them to use digital editing. Then for him to "rap". But, if by rap they mean speak-sing(as many have pointed out) then I think it's fine.
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#46

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 3:57pm

I am sure the article was written by someone with absolutely no musical knowledge and in their small realm of experience when someone speaks along with music they call it "rapping". I am sure that Cohen will speak-sing a la Rex Harrison in My Fair Lady.
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#47

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 3:57pm

It's funny reading all of you people who say Pirelli is a walk in the park to sing. LOL You either have never sung or really don't know that role. It's not spoken it's sung. There are notes written in it and at the end there's a high C. Yeeeaaah I'm sure everyone and their mother has a pleasant high C. Notoriously difficult? I'm not sure about that but it certainly isn't a walk in the part. One must have some training to do it well.
#48

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 4:03pm

Oy... I just keep telling myself that Sondheim won't let them ruin his masterpiece, but I keep believeing myself less and less.
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#49

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 5:57pm

What I don't get in all of this press release is the comparison to Jim Broadbent. Broadbent is a THOROUGHLY trained actor with quite a good singing voice. And he did indeed sing his songs in "Moulin Rouge" without "rapping" them. Regardless, Moulin Rouge was composed of preestablished pop/rock songs that the audience was already vastly familiar with. Sweeney is an original score. I can't possibly believe this story is for real.
#50

re: Baron Cohen To Rap the Role of Pirelli in Sweeney Film

Posted: 12/17/06 at 6:01pm

This film will be one of the best of 2007; Johnny Depp is playing the murderous barber Sweeny Toss while Helena Bonham Carter is playing Mrs Lovett, the baker."

It doesn't exactly sound like it's coming from a reliable source, folks. Unless you're planning on seeing SWEENY TOSS, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
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