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#26

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i always thought jane martin was the nom de guerre of jon jory or someone else at actors theater of louisville.
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#27

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i've only seen parks' Venus Hottentot play and i LOVED it. wendy wasserstein is a parody of herself, imo.
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#28

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If we are including women who have only written one play I will submit Carson McCullers. I don't really think that someone who has only one play under their belt should really be considered in this topic, however.

Oh, and Garland is right about Jane Martin. Not really a person, but a committee.
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#29

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Good point about Caryl, Margo, I guess I'm just not that into her.

I've never understood the lack of female playwrights either, especially when they flourish as novelists, poets, journalists, etc.

I agree about Lillian, and totally put her in there with Elmer, Robert, Max and Cliff..

"All playwrights should be dead for three hunderd years!"

there u go Margo--or was it 200 years...hmmm...
#30

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In terms of female playwrights with real bodies of work:

-- Churchill has dozens of plays to her credit (many award winning

-- Hellman has a sizeable body of work, but none of it really holds up at this point

-- I've personally seen about 8 plays from Vogel -- certainly enough to deem her worthy of consideration. "How I Learned to Drive" is brilliant. "Long Christmas Ride Home" was first rate (though the direction and bunkaru puppetry and percussion from the wonderful Vineyard production made it hard to separate how much good stuff was text and how much was everything else). The recent Signature productions of "Baltimore Waltz," "The Oldest Profession," and "Hot N' Throbbing" underlined several major flaws in the writing of each and all three came off as didactic and more than a little dated. "Mineola Twins" was a fun experiment that didn't totally work. I find "Desdemona" an interesting, but minor work.

-- Wasserstein has what? About 8 full length plays? Not a fan, but others are. I wouldn't call her a major talent, but a competent mainstream writer who has come up with a couple of audience-pleasers over the years. Good for her.

-- Rebecca Gilman is now up to her 6th or 7th work I believe (I've seen the 4 that have played New York). Her work is consistently challenging, thought-provoking and politically relevant. Her writing can lack subtlety and true poetry at times, but that may be by design -- she seems to want to create theatre without artifice that directly connects with an audience. I wouldn't call her a great playwright yet, but she's created a formidable body of work so far -- give her another few years.

Anyone else have more than 5 full length plays that have been produced on a major stage in New York?

Other than Churchill, I wouldn't put any of them on a list of the ten finest playwrights of the past century (or even the past 25 years).

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Updated On: 9/8/05 at 03:56 PM

#31

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Getting produced on a visible New York stage can be more a question of money than anything else.

Updated On: 9/8/05 at 04:02 PM

#32

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Well, most of the major not-for profits seem to make an effort to find, support and produce plays by female playwrights (especially the Public, Playwrights and MTC) pretty much every season, so it's not always just about money.

The question is why so few of those plays go onto Brooadway or another commercial venue. Answering my own question, I suppose since there are fewer female playwrights to begin with, then there would naturally be fewer hits by female playwrights as well. I still go back to WHY there are relatively so few successful female playwrights compared to male ones.
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney
#33

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Rebecca Gilman has 10 plays that I know have been produced (I'm sure there are more out there):

1. The Sweetest Swing in Baseball
2. Spinning into Butter
3. Speech Therapy
4. Heaven and Hell (on Earth)
5. The Heart is a Lonely Hunter
6. The Glory of Living
7. Boy Gets Girl
8. Blue Surge
9. Bill of (W)rights
10. Capitalism 101

All of these plays are amazing...I do think she's got some growth yet to do, but I'd qualify her as one of the best (my personal palate likes her best of all).
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#34

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A friend of mine also starred in an early work of Gilman's (which she doesn't include on her resume) off-off-Broadway in the mid 90s called "The Adventures of Bobby and Vaughn." I don't remember much about it (it involved a pair of 20-somethings who spent a lot of time hanging out on a couch watching tv).
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney
#35

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It is a mystery Margo--maybe there's just not alot of women with an interest in writing plays...but then again, there aren't alot of female screenwriters either. Frances Marion excepted of course...
#36

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I think that because screen and stage tradition uses the "male gaze", the females get left out to dry more often than not.

Another relic of patriarchy, is my theory.

EDIT: for more info. on the male gaze:
http://www.aber.ac.uk/media/Documents/gaze/gaze09.html

"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'" -- unknown

Updated On: 9/8/05 at 04:37 PM

#37

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Most directors are men, perhaps that has something to do with it.
#38

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Garland Grrrl is correct - it is generally known than "Jane Martin" is really Jon Jory.
#39

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Thanks for all your interesting responses!

There are a lot of names there that I hadn't considered, so now I'm re-evaluating my original answer...however I do feel that, had she lived, Lorraine Hansberry would be the definitive choice.

I've also wondered about the lack of female playwrights, or at least successful/popular ones, and yet to come up with an answer. I think Elaine May is the last female to have a work produced on Broadway, and a colleague of mine insists "If a man had written that trash, it would NEVER have made Broadway!".

Puzzling.
#40

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Right! Females dominate so many areas of publishing and literature....except theatre and film

JK Rowling is the most successful novelist of all time, Emily Dickinson is arguably America's greatest poet, and women like Gloria Steinhem and Helen Gurley Brown in the magazine world...

Guess they're just not writing plays or films...
#41

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Gosh, I forgot about Elaine May (even though I saw her "After the Night and the Music" a few months ago). Not sure what happened to her, but it's all seemed somewhat downhill since she stopped working with Mike Nichols in the 60s. She's had a few successful screenplays (though they were adaptations of previously existing material), but her plays seem like stuff that she's had sitting in a drawer for 40 years. The writing is schticky, moldy and decidedly dated.

Nora Ephron is also worth mentioning for her screenwriting (her attempts at playwriting have been less than successful).
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney
#42

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Broadway for playwrights is just a question of money.

A lot of money.
#45

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I didn't say I liked Ephron, but she's written several hugely successful movies and has had a play on Broadway -- something very few women can say, so I thought she was worth adding to the discussion.
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney
#46

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Caryl Churchill. Absolutely.

But I'm also going to add Lorraine Hansberry. I was Ruth in 'Raisin in the Sun.' I go to an all white, very relgious school too. It was neat.
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#47

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I'm still for Lillian Hellman. I believe her work has stood the test of time. I'm still blown away by WATCH ON THE RHINE, THE CHILDREN'S HOUR, and, of course, THE LITTLE FOXES.

Yes, they are melodramatic. But melodrama is a type of theatre I enjoy.. along with farce. Both are very hard to do. Hellman really mastered it.

Perhaps the seem overly melodramatic because Bette Davis' over mannered performances in the film versions make them come of as silly.

As far a American playwrights are concerned Hellman really broke ground for women playwrights. I doubt that any living female playwright today would argue that.


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#48

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Study the works the Mint theatre has presented, Yipper.

You may be surprised and less sure.
#49

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Glad to.

I'm not familiar with the Mint theatre. Have they presented works by female playwrights who were contemporaries of Hellman?

I doubt they would make me enjoy Hellman's work less. Or, perhaps you mean they would make Hellman's work less ground breaking for american women playwrights. I doubt that as well, based soley on the success Hellman had in her day. When a women is a success in a feild dominated by men... regardless of what you think of her work, she has broken ground for other women to enjoy success in that field too.

Or, perhaps the Mint Theatre productions will make me think Bette Davis is not an overly mannered actress.


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#50

re: Best female playwright?

Lillian Hellman.

I saw a production of "The Children's Hour" that was devastating. I'm still not over it. Love "The Little Foxes" and "Another Part of the Forest." Saw them back-to-back in one evening.

But if you want to throw in another one-hit wonder, how about Mary Chase for "Harvey?"
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