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Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018

Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018

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JSquared2
#2Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 1:03pm

Not really that surprising, since the majority of the voters are teenage fangurls.

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Alex M
#3Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 1:05pm

JSquared2 said: "Not really that surprising, since the majority of the voters are teenage fangurls."

Very true. As to why Mean Girls won most of the category’s. 

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LizzieCurry
#4Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 1:32pm

Category's what?


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Wayman_Wong
#5Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 1:33pm

Plus, when the Broadway Audience Award nominations were first announced, ''Mean Girls'' had 12 and ''The Band's Visit'' had only 2.

I'll bet it's the only award Glenda Jackson loses to Uma Thurman. Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018

Updated On: 5/17/18 at 01:33 PM

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LizzieCurry
#6Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 1:41pm

Jumping back in to also say that the tut-tutting of the interests of teenage girls is also tiresome.


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ethan231h
#7Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 1:43pm

these awards are a joke lol

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JBroadway
#8Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 2:10pm

Welcome to the Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards, everybody! This is how it is every year. It's absolutely nothing but a popularity contest, and even then only what's popular among the teenage reader base of Broadway.com. 

Wayman_Wong
#9Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 2:54pm

All awards are subjective, and ultimately popularity contests. Hey, BroadwayWorld is holding its own Theater Fans' Choice Awards. It's only the voting constituency that changes. And the prizes reflect their distinct tastes. Sometimes, it's critics. Other times, it's Tony voters. Or the public. Or even teenage girls. That's showbiz. 

Updated On: 5/17/18 at 02:54 PM

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S394206H
#10Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 3:10pm

I’m always blown away by the Twitter fangirls that say whoever won “deserved” the award- everyone who is eligible “deserves” an award. All these awards show is who has the biggest online fan base (see: marketability and appeal to high school theatre kids.) People act like these stars/ shows won Oscars, when really it’s like they won a Kid’s Choice Award- it’s just a name, a silly thing to do.


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JBroadway
#11Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 3:18pm

Wayman_Wong said: "All awards are subjective, and ultimately popularity contests. Hey, BroadwayWorld is holding its own Theater Fans' Choice Awards. It's only the voting constituency that changes. And the prizes reflect their distinct tastes. Sometimes, it's critics. Other times, it's Tony voters. Or the public. Or even teenage girls. That's showbiz."

 

That's a fair point, but the constituency is not the only difference. Consider that the Tony Voters are required to see every eligible production before voting. The same is obviously not true here. People just vote for actors/shows they like without actually being able to compare them to their competitors, or potentially without even seeing the show itself. So the credibility is drastically lower, not because they are teenagers, but because there is no accountability or system in place to allow for more objectivity.

And by the way, I would definitely think BroadwayWorld's awards - I don't consider them exempt from the same criticisms at all. Although I think BroadwayWorld probably has a wider demographic range than Broadway.com.

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Call_me_jorge
#12Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 5:58pm

Alex M said: "Supprised there’s no love for bands visit. https://www.broadway.com/buzz/192192/mean-girls-leads-broadwaycom-audience-choice-award-winners-ethan-slater-hailey-kilgore-also-take-top-prizes/"

this had better been a joke...


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GeorgeandDot
#13Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 6:09pm

I went to vote a few days ago and I clicked out the very second that I saw that Katrina Lenk wasn't nominated.

I can't wait for the Twitter "stans" to cry come Tony day because Mean Girls and SpongeBob were "robbed" just like their beloved Comet.

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South Fl Marc
#14Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 6:12pm

I don't bother to vote - they are a total joke.

Oak2
#15Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 8:20pm

Very happy and congratulations to Mean Girls for winning this! Despite the tut-tutting and dismissals from elitist snobs, this certainly matters - it gives them a clear sign that there is a group that absolutely appreciates their show, regardless of the views of other, and that's great. Regardless of any of my own opinions on the show, I'm always glad to see a show has a group giving its resounding support for it. Anyone trying to demean this and shoot down the show's voters because they're "just" teenagers, and most certainly because their tastes don't match with what they believe should be the "acceptable" taste, as if their own tastes and qualifications on a subjective medium are somehow superior, are evil elitist snobs who can be safely ignored.

Updated On: 5/17/18 at 08:20 PM

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GeorgeandDot
#16Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 8:31pm

Knock it off with your elitism bs. These teens have no idea what they're talking about considering that most of them didn't see any of the shows and are voting on their favorite bootleg. What you see as elitism, is actually us fed up with poor theatre created to just make money. I call it being concerned for the future of American musical theatre.

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dmwnc1959
#17Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 8:33pm

Oak2 said: "Very happy and congratulations to Mean Girls for winning this! Despite the tut-tutting and dismissals from elitist snobs, this certainly matters - it gives them a clear sign that there is a group that absolutely appreciates their show, regardless of the views of other, and that's great. Regardless of any of my own opinions on the show, I'm always glad to see a show has a group giving its resounding support for it. Anyone trying to demean this and shoot down the show's votersbecause they're "just" teenagers, and most certainly because their tastes don't match with what they believe should be the "acceptable" taste,as if their own tastes and qualifications on a subjective medium are somehow superior, are evil elitist snobs who can be safely ignored."

 

There’s also a group that probably would have voted The Jerry Springer Show as favorite talk show, but it doesn’t make it The Best.  

 

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dmwnc1959
#18Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 8:34pm

GeorgeandDot said: "Knock it off with your elitism bs. These teens have no idea what they're talking about considering that most of them didn't see any of the shows and are voting on their favorite bootleg. What you see as elitism, is actually us fed up with poor theatre created to just make money. I call it being concerned for the future of American musical theatre."

 

Preach it! And THANK YOU. :)

Impossible2
#19Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 8:35pm

GeorgeandDot said: "I went to vote a few days ago and I clicked out the very second that I saw that Katrina Lenk wasn't nominated.

I can't wait for the Twitter "stans" to cry come Tony day because Mean Girls and SpongeBob were "robbed" just like their beloved Comet.
"

Only Comet WAS robbed...

UncleCharlie
#20Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 8:39pm

dmwnc1959 said: "There’s also a group that probably would have voted The Jerry Springer Show as favorite talk show, but it doesn’t make it The Best."

Damn straight. Everyone knows it's Maury "You are NOT the father" Povich. if you don't agree, you're not only wrong but elitist and morally bankrupt.

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dmwnc1959
#21Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 8:41pm

UncleCharlie said: "Damn straight. Everyone knows it's Maury "You are NOT the father" Povich. if you don't agree, you're not only wrong but elitist and morally bankrupt."

 

You forgot “un-American”. Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018

 

Oak2
#22Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 8:44pm

 

GeorgeandDot said: "Knock it off with your elitism bs. These teens have no idea what they're talking about considering that most of them didn't see any of the shows and are voting on their favorite bootleg. What you see as elitism, is actually us fed up with poor theatre created to just make money. I call it being concerned for the future of American musical theatre."

Well since you're outright telling me to knock it off, I will be sure to continue as much as possible, since anything that would make an evil elitist unhappy is Good and Holy in my book. 

These teens don't HAVE to know what they're talking about. All that matters is what they enjoy. They're showing that they approve and enjoy of this show, which give affirmation that it deserves to exist. This is a good thing. You call it "poor theatre" but your opinion on it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. What makes your tastes superior to theirs? Nothing. It's a purely subjective medium. 

Your "concern for the future of theater" amounts to "WAAAAAH! THEY'RE MAKING SHOWS I DON'T LIKE, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO LIKE THESE SHOWS! THOSE OTHER PEOPLE DON'T COUNT BECAUSE I THINK INTELLECTUALLY INFERIOR TO ME! WAAAAH! I WANT ONLY SHOWS THAT I LIKE TO EXIST, AND NOTHING ELSE!" Shows that you like still exist, and will still be made. But you don't want a world where shows that cater to all tastes exist. You want a world that only caters to YOU, which is EVIL. 

These people aren't saying that "intellectual" shows of the type you snobs love shouldn't exist, they're showing support what they love. The only side I ever see moaning and groaning and saying a certain type of theater shouldn't exist or is something bad are the snobs, who believe something that many other people enjoy shouldn't exist just because THEY personally don't like it. And that's just PURE EVIL. It's literally thinking that you're SO MUCH MORE SUPERIOR than everyone else that your tastes are the end-all be-all. And the only fair and just way to treat someone who thinks they're better than everyone is to treat them as below everyone instead. So elitist snobs don't deserve to be treated as human beings. 

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JBroadway
#23Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 8:45pm

I stand by what I said above, but I do think there are deeper problems in here which are rooted in elitism. Most teenagers -- and in fact most people -- don't really have the time or money to see as many shows as the people on this board do, especially if they live outside of New York (as most human beings do). So naturally people will gravitate toward the shows that are geared toward them, as many young people seem to have done in this case.

As I said above, I DO think that people who see more shows are in a better position to speak with more objectivity (though of course there is no such thing as true objectivity here), because they have more perspective. But we are only able to do that because of immense privilege. And Tony Voters, as I pointed above, are even more qualified to judge shows because they are all in the business, and are comped into every show. But again, that comes with even more privilege. And to ignore that privilege -- and demean people without it -- IS very much elitism. I admit I need reminding of this myself sometimes. 

Updated On: 5/17/18 at 08:45 PM

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S394206H
#24Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 8:50pm

I think of these awards as "Most Likely To" awards that you win in high school or something- they're cute and fun and the recognition is nice, but it doesn't mean anything in the long run. No one is being elitist- most of the people that vote for these awards haven't seen or heard more than one show- the recent trend of one show winning the majority of the awards (DEH, Hamilton, etc.) proves this. People are going to vote for names that they recognize and nothing else- it's why celebrity stars are almost guaranteed to win. This isn't that Tonys for god's sake- it's an internet poll where you can win a little plaque with your name on it.

On another, more bitter note- can we PLEASE stop whining about the results of last year's Tonys? I know some people that have literally complained all year- it's in the past, it happened, who cares who was "robbed" or not- you can't change the results and people need to accept that.


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GeorgeandDot
#25Broadway.com Audience Choice Awards 2018
Posted: 5/17/18 at 8:51pm

Oak, you're a child. A straight up child. You have no idea of what you're talking about. Like others on here have said, I'm sure Jerry Springer is some people's favorite show, doesn't make it good. Also, don't act like theatre hasn't declined in quality over the last couple of decades. It certainly has and the theme park/vegas theatre is killing Broadway. Cry me a f*cking river and continue to spew your immature nonsense all of these boards about how we're all a bunch of elitist snobs because we like to see some theatre that isn't aimed at rich tweens and their parents who will probably text for half the show, get drunk at the bar, and then run out during the finale to catch an Uber. Get over yourself and do your homework. It's almost bedtime.


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