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#1

Broadway houses - weird numbering?

I'm currently planning my first trip to NYC on my lonesome in April, and am looking at different theatre seating plans for seats/prices etc. I discovered that many, if not all, number their seats very differently. The central section is usually 101, 102 etc, then the two side sections are either odd or even numbers - prime example being the New Amsterdam: http://www.doboffers.com/marypoppins/.

Does anyone else find this odd/annoying? Why not just use the British (and Aussie) system of beginning house right with 1 (or the lowest seat number) and running to house left consecutively?

Thoughts?

PS: I would post this on the Broadway Board, but I'm not really ready to leave the leisurely spa of the West End Board and enter the raging rapids that is the Broadway Board.
#2

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It is the most ridiculous set up i have ever seen.
Why does it have to be laid out so stupidly complicated i have always wondered.
What's wrong with 1,2,3,4
Whys it got to go 112 112 113 etc
pathetic and pointless.!
#4

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Maybe it's so that people who have paid huge sums for premium seats in the centre orchestra can feel that a high numbered seat is really worth more than a low numbered one!

There's another stupid thing - orchestra? Are you supposed to play an instrument or something? (Note: Must give that idea to John Doyle) What's wrong with "stalls"?

At least they don't have to pay for programmes, I suppose.
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The only UK theatre I can think of at the moment that strays from the traditional UK way of numbering is the Grand Theatre Blackpool and then all they do is odds and evens.


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Updated On: 2/22/09 at 07:37 PM

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To me it actually makes nearly zero sense. I was about to buy seat N28 in the Orchestra (which I was hoping wasn't a seat in the pit) of the New Amsterdam, because I know its a big theatre and therefore would have about 50 seats per row - 28 being about centre.
However, thankfully Disney offer a preview of the view from the seat and I punched in the seat number - I was on the END of a row, the view partially covered by a box!!
What complete idiot came up with this nonsensical system?

Mama, when I saw the Booth I nearly laughed at how complicated it was - with the arrows, and different sections etc
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lolol its so true, its all a bit backwards
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#8

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I like both systems and thus see no problem with the American one. Three-digit numbers equal a center section seat. For the two-digit numbers, odd numbers mean house left, even numbers indicate house right. It may seem complicated, but it defines sections via their numbers (something that can't be done with a 1-50 sort of system, as numbers vary from theatre to theatre). But I am fully aware that it is a little complicated...it definitely takes some getting used to! re: Broadway houses - weird numbering?

PS: I agree...the West End board is a much more leisurely and pleasant place to be!

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Updated On: 2/22/09 at 10:59 PM

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There are times over the years when I think I've worked out the "logic" of the Broadway numbering system ,and then I see a new theatre seating plan and it falls apart!
I'll try and understand thankstophantom's explanation

Updated On: 2/23/09 at 02:33 AM

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An exception.....the centre block numbering holds on a few plans Ive looked at..but the left/right, odd/even doesn't...see the Belasco and Broadway!
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The American system is strangely over-complicated, but even our system confuses people - many's the time I've sat in my seat watching people wandering around trying to work out where row D could possibly be hidden. Something about a theatre seems to rob otherwise sane people of their ability to count and knowledge of the alphabet!
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Know that about people not being able to find their row - happens especially when rows been taken out or rows as AA and BB are in front of row A.
Had so often already people standing in front of me thinking am in their seat, e.g. at the Prince Edward theatre where there is no row A, as people often just count the number of rows from the stage instead of looking properly.
Another system which also confuses some people is the one Stage Entertainment in Germany uses.
They divide the auditorium into left and right and the most central one is seat number 1 (the further on the side you are the higher your number then) but there is seat number 1 left and seat number 1 right - and some people just do not know the difference between left and right.
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I hear airlines have the same kind of problem. Passenger's checking in their brains with their luggage and cant find simple seating on boarding the aircraft!
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I love at the Manchester Palace that we have no 'I' row, that confuses people, its kinda funny watching people trying to figure out where their row has gone lol, i always go and help though
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Most theatres don't have an 'I' row.
They would probably try and sit in row 11.
I've worked in theatres that do have and its amazing how stupid people can be on a night out!

There was a theatre in Miamai where I saw the US National tour of 'Anything Goes' with Mitzi gaynor in the late 80s. At this theatre they started at 1 in the front row and the numbers just went up until the last seat in the last row - so if its stalls capacity was, say, 878 then that was how they sold them- 1 thru to 878.
I stood there in amazement!

Updated On: 2/23/09 at 08:06 AM

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Germany's rows are numbered, now thats confusion for ya! Especially when you're trying to book tickets for Tarzan and can barely understand what the person is saying, they go ahead and say seat C, that's the moment you know you're f*****!
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#18

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I think the Broadway method can be helpful if, for example, you're buying from TKTS and don't have a seating chart handy. So if you get Row G, seats 6 and 8 you know you're the 3rd and 4th seats of the aisle.

Also, aside from New York theatres and a few others - mostly on the east coast and in Chicago - the majority of the theatres in the US I've been to don't use this numbering system (which means American tourists are just as confused as anyone else). Most have seats numbered numerically in each section like this:

http://nwcts.org/html/prod-seating-big.html
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Now that is confusing. Presumably they then have to include a block letter or number. Why not just do sequential numbers across the whole row? (like what my simple brain understands!)
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Totally agree about booking tickets for Tarzan - though I saw it in the Netherlands, not Germany. The theatre is a circus theatre, so its in-the-round-ish. There is only one level of seats, just at the edges they are raked around in a circle. I bought a medium price ticket and figured that since it was in-the-round-ish I would get a good enough seat. The plan worked perfectly :) I was just off centre on the rake, so I was able to take in the whole show, while still having people fly directly over my head.

Glad to hear that I'm not alone in thinking the US system is absurd :)
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Yeah there's usually no O's and I's. Another weird one is the Apollo Victoria, I guess it's just massive, but there's Z, ZA, ZB, through to ZG. It confused me for about a second.
I find it very frustrating when people accuse me of being in their seat; "No, this is the STALLS, where my ticket is, your tickets are in the DRESS CIRCLE".
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That plan of the Booth is confusing to me and I've got a Maths degree. Thanks to ThankstoPhantom whose explanation is helpful.

Those of us who can remember LPs can probably recall how UK double LPs had sides 1 and 2 on one disc and sides 3 and 4 on another (so you only had to change discs once), whilst US double releases had sides 1 and 4 on one disc and sides 2 and 3 on another (so you had to change discs twice). It's not surprising they drive on the wrong side of the road, just like their best pals the French. re: Broadway houses - weird numbering?

I love how boyfromoz2 has obviously spotted the Weez analysis!

Updated On: 2/24/09 at 05:18 PM

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The double LP thing was a Polydor UK thing (Track/Polydor etc)... The idea was you'd use the auto changer with both LPs on (CLUNK!), then turn over and have sides 3 and 4.

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