#76
Posted: 7/27/05 at 11:44pm
Wasn't the swastika red?
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Cabaret-- a Discussion — Page 4
#78
Posted: 7/27/05 at 11:50pm
Somebody posted on the last page that it was blue. The swastika (not just in the show - always) is red.
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#80
Posted: 7/27/05 at 11:58pm
One of my favorite anecdotes from our production was the "Tomorrow" scene. In the revival, I believe that it was just the Emcee and a record player, correct? Anyway for ours we had the Kit Kat Band elevated over the stage, so with that there were various walkways/platforms available for unique staging purposes.
For that one scene instead of a record player, we actually had a little boy with a boy scout uniform on come to the lip of the stage (small intimate theater). He was lit by one dim pinspot directly above and everything else was black. The way he was lit, you couldn't see his face- really creepy. Anyway, he sings three verses or so of the song and right when he goes " tomorrow belongs-" the pinspot goes off and the Emcee is revealed on one of the upper catwalks backlit by a greenish light in shadow and goes "To Me!". It was sooo creepy and no matter how many times I saw it, it gave me chills. The audience jumped each time.
For that one scene instead of a record player, we actually had a little boy with a boy scout uniform on come to the lip of the stage (small intimate theater). He was lit by one dim pinspot directly above and everything else was black. The way he was lit, you couldn't see his face- really creepy. Anyway, he sings three verses or so of the song and right when he goes " tomorrow belongs-" the pinspot goes off and the Emcee is revealed on one of the upper catwalks backlit by a greenish light in shadow and goes "To Me!". It was sooo creepy and no matter how many times I saw it, it gave me chills. The audience jumped each time.
#81
Posted: 7/28/05 at 12:00am
Wow. That IS creepy.
I think the orchestra in the revival was there, but the lights were dimmed - there were all of those catwalks and things. The orchestra was above the stage, too. Emcee was center stage, crouched behind the record player.
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I think the orchestra in the revival was there, but the lights were dimmed - there were all of those catwalks and things. The orchestra was above the stage, too. Emcee was center stage, crouched behind the record player.
#82
LOL! We put an insomniak to sleep.
Perhaps the sudden sight of his butt made me cross-eyed; I defer to your butt paint selection.
Posted: 7/28/05 at 12:01am
LOL! We put an insomniak to sleep.
Perhaps the sudden sight of his butt made me cross-eyed; I defer to your butt paint selection.
#83
Posted: 7/28/05 at 12:04am
LOL! It was probably the lighting.
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#84
Posted: 7/28/05 at 12:08am
That Tomorrow Belongs to Me thing sounds terrifying. I'm gonna have nightmares. :O
#85
Posted: 7/28/05 at 12:37am
Great thread!
The cabaret soundtrack(yes, soundtrack) was my first exposure ever to musical theatre--my aunt used to play it as she drove me to nursery school and I fell in love w/ it. Very funny how much more I've learned about it since then...
Couple of things...the disturbing thing...I guess the finale as well but since I would want my answer to include all versions of the show, I would definitely have to say Tomorrow Belongs To Me. The way it's so easily started, and everyone joining in and the hypnotizing way...I mean esp. more so in the movie, seeing children sucked in...just terrifying(and I too loved and well still do this song before knowing it's meaning).
The cabaret itself...like Hal Prince said in the PBS series, Cabaret took place in two worlds--the real one and "limbo"(Kit Kat Club.) Everything that was shown in the club commented on things going on in the real world. Obviously, "If You Could See Her," but others as well(keep in mind I only saw the stage show once so most of the stuff I mention esp. involving songs are prob more from the soundtrack which I know better).
Someone made a great point in showing that both Sally and the Cabaret really stood for the Germans who did nothing just lived a pleasant life, ignoring what was happening to the Jews. The connection between the two completely come together in Sally's rendition of "Cabaret." The idea that life's a cabaret, a breeze, we don't need to be "political."
I personally found a big difference at least between Joel Grey's movie Emcee and the revival Emcee. Joel Grey's emcee I really did feel was more of an instigator, embracing everything going on, quietly commenting on it, getting people to go the cabaret, the place where no troubles are, and just seemed to be enjoying everything going on. For awhile I thought the same of the revival emcee until the end, when I realized he wasn't the instigator, but the victim. Nice twist.
Fav song...Mein Herr and Cabaret, ever since I was little...I loved "belting"(not that I can now and however I sang when I was younger) those tunes out and still do.
Seeing the show...once...Jon Secada and Melina. I thought they were fine, but I've become more critical since then, and have nothing to compare it to, but I still enjoyed it. I remember wishing Melina would sing a bit better but than enjoyed her "Cabaret." I really remember liking Jon. ::shrugs::
One last thing...it's really weird, though I love the movie soundtrack, I think I like the book of the show much better than the script of the movie. I dunno, I like the story between Herr Schultz and Fraulein errr shoot can't remember names...well yeah. I liked that story better than the younger couple story told, and just...eh lots of stuff.
The cabaret soundtrack(yes, soundtrack) was my first exposure ever to musical theatre--my aunt used to play it as she drove me to nursery school and I fell in love w/ it. Very funny how much more I've learned about it since then...
Couple of things...the disturbing thing...I guess the finale as well but since I would want my answer to include all versions of the show, I would definitely have to say Tomorrow Belongs To Me. The way it's so easily started, and everyone joining in and the hypnotizing way...I mean esp. more so in the movie, seeing children sucked in...just terrifying(and I too loved and well still do this song before knowing it's meaning).
The cabaret itself...like Hal Prince said in the PBS series, Cabaret took place in two worlds--the real one and "limbo"(Kit Kat Club.) Everything that was shown in the club commented on things going on in the real world. Obviously, "If You Could See Her," but others as well(keep in mind I only saw the stage show once so most of the stuff I mention esp. involving songs are prob more from the soundtrack which I know better).
Someone made a great point in showing that both Sally and the Cabaret really stood for the Germans who did nothing just lived a pleasant life, ignoring what was happening to the Jews. The connection between the two completely come together in Sally's rendition of "Cabaret." The idea that life's a cabaret, a breeze, we don't need to be "political."
I personally found a big difference at least between Joel Grey's movie Emcee and the revival Emcee. Joel Grey's emcee I really did feel was more of an instigator, embracing everything going on, quietly commenting on it, getting people to go the cabaret, the place where no troubles are, and just seemed to be enjoying everything going on. For awhile I thought the same of the revival emcee until the end, when I realized he wasn't the instigator, but the victim. Nice twist.
Fav song...Mein Herr and Cabaret, ever since I was little...I loved "belting"(not that I can now and however I sang when I was younger) those tunes out and still do.
Seeing the show...once...Jon Secada and Melina. I thought they were fine, but I've become more critical since then, and have nothing to compare it to, but I still enjoyed it. I remember wishing Melina would sing a bit better but than enjoyed her "Cabaret." I really remember liking Jon. ::shrugs::
One last thing...it's really weird, though I love the movie soundtrack, I think I like the book of the show much better than the script of the movie. I dunno, I like the story between Herr Schultz and Fraulein errr shoot can't remember names...well yeah. I liked that story better than the younger couple story told, and just...eh lots of stuff.
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#87
Posted: 7/28/05 at 1:05am
I think I perhaps saw the same PBS special (it was like 5 in the morning, I've been trying to figure out what it was ever since!). I've been doing a lot of research on Sally Bowles (I'll be playing the character in September) and after reading Christopher Isherwood's book, I've come to find her very naive. She really has a self-imposed ignorance toward the world, politics, etc. Isherwood said this great quote about her, "I only knew that she was lovable in a way no human could ever quite be, since, being a creature of art, she had been created out of pure love."
I also saw in that PBS thing someone (wish I remembered who) talking about Sally's decision to have the abortion. They suggested it comes at the end of Cabaret... "I made my mind up back in Chelsea, when I go I'm going like Elsie..." and so forth. In considering this, I definitely think Sally makes a flighty decision (as insomniak suggested) to keep herself from sitting alone in her room and so on.
And MikeH... that's hella creepy!!
I also saw in that PBS thing someone (wish I remembered who) talking about Sally's decision to have the abortion. They suggested it comes at the end of Cabaret... "I made my mind up back in Chelsea, when I go I'm going like Elsie..." and so forth. In considering this, I definitely think Sally makes a flighty decision (as insomniak suggested) to keep herself from sitting alone in her room and so on.
And MikeH... that's hella creepy!!
#88
Posted: 7/28/05 at 1:45am
I love the parallel of Sally and Fraulein Schneider in that they both decide to try and wait out the Nazis. Their decisions come from very different places but draw the same conclusion.
I think the reason Sally gets an abortion is threefold. 1. Cliff pissed her off and she wanted to hit him where it would hurt the most and having had abortions before she knew she could handle doing it again. 2. She was dumb enough to think that the Nazi thing wouldn't affect her and she wanted to keep her job at the club. 3. It was a way of claiming independence, making her own choice.
On another note, We were rehearsing the Finale tonight and I realized something. I may be dense for not seeing it before. The whole finale is the book the Cliff writes. He starts it out and it segues to the Emcee. Cliff did get his novel, and escaped with his life.
I think the reason Sally gets an abortion is threefold. 1. Cliff pissed her off and she wanted to hit him where it would hurt the most and having had abortions before she knew she could handle doing it again. 2. She was dumb enough to think that the Nazi thing wouldn't affect her and she wanted to keep her job at the club. 3. It was a way of claiming independence, making her own choice.
On another note, We were rehearsing the Finale tonight and I realized something. I may be dense for not seeing it before. The whole finale is the book the Cliff writes. He starts it out and it segues to the Emcee. Cliff did get his novel, and escaped with his life.
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Updated On: 7/28/05 at 01:45 AM
#89
Posted: 7/28/05 at 10:57am
MikeH, it was a gramaphone (I think like a phonograph). Just informing. :)
#90
Posted: 7/28/05 at 11:50am
I was right about having a nightmare. I dreamt that I was watching Cabaret in a theater. It got to the 'Tomorrow Belongs to Me' song and I felt like leaving the theater for a few seconds for some reason. (It was a dream)
But when I went to the doors, they were locked! From the outside! I asked a person what was going on, but he just smiled creepily and gave the Nazi salute!
I started panicking, but decided to wait untill the end of the play. Big mistake.
The end was the one where the stage fills up with smoke and the Emcee and the dancers die. But in my dream, the whole room filled up with smoke! And it was the real stuff! Zyklon B!
Then I woke up. :o
Interpret that as you will. (Come to think of it, that sounds like a great book!)
But when I went to the doors, they were locked! From the outside! I asked a person what was going on, but he just smiled creepily and gave the Nazi salute!
I started panicking, but decided to wait untill the end of the play. Big mistake.
The end was the one where the stage fills up with smoke and the Emcee and the dancers die. But in my dream, the whole room filled up with smoke! And it was the real stuff! Zyklon B!
Then I woke up. :o
Interpret that as you will. (Come to think of it, that sounds like a great book!)
#91
Gads, Emcee. Are you young enough to have lived through that before?
Dreadfully eerie. What a nightmare.
Posted: 7/28/05 at 12:31pm
Gads, Emcee. Are you young enough to have lived through that before?
Dreadfully eerie. What a nightmare.
Updated On: 7/28/05 at 12:31 PM
#92
Posted: 7/28/05 at 12:35pm
Good thing it was just a nightmare. And it gave me inspiration for a novel!
Isn't it ironic how Cliff got the inspiration for his book in the worst way? (Kinda like me!}
Isn't it ironic how Cliff got the inspiration for his book in the worst way? (Kinda like me!}
#93
Posted: 7/28/05 at 1:05pm
Never seen it but Ive listend to the OBC and read the libretto, and my friend saw it the week before it closed with Egan and Pascal. I got chills from reading it.
I always surmised that Sally got the abortion because she didn't want to deal with reality - she wanted life to be a fantasy that was her cabaret, and what would symbolize the strifes, ups and downs of reality more than a child?
*Sorry, I knew she aborted it, I was just having a brain fart. I guess I meant I surmised why she didn't HAVE it-sorry*
I always surmised that Sally got the abortion because she didn't want to deal with reality - she wanted life to be a fantasy that was her cabaret, and what would symbolize the strifes, ups and downs of reality more than a child?
*Sorry, I knew she aborted it, I was just having a brain fart. I guess I meant I surmised why she didn't HAVE it-sorry*
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Updated On: 7/28/05 at 01:05 PM
#94
Posted: 7/28/05 at 1:36pm
She did abort the baby. Too bad. 
I wonder what gender it would have been?
I wonder what gender it would have been?
#95
Posted: 7/28/05 at 2:24pm
Who do you think the father of the baby was?
#96
Posted: 7/28/05 at 3:15pm
Emcee4Ever, there actually was a production done at Illinois State University (and I'm sure it's been done elsewhere) years ago that sounds a bit like your nightmare. Except the whole dying thing. :) In this one, come intermission, they had actors dressed as Nazis at the doors and refused to let anyone out. Can you imagine?! Has anyone else heard of productions where this was done? Do you think it is unneccesary and over the top, or do you think it drives home the point?
#97
Posted: 7/28/05 at 3:29pm
... Really?
:O
I think it drives home a point, but is a bit unsettling. What if someone had to go to the bathroom?
:O
I think it drives home a point, but is a bit unsettling. What if someone had to go to the bathroom?
#98
Posted: 7/28/05 at 4:34pm
Screw the bathroom I'd need to get a double at the bar. Besides, fire code will not allow for that actually.
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#100
Posted: 7/28/05 at 7:16pm
In our production we aren't going to have a curtain call. The show will end witht he Emcee center with at star of David on his chest a Nazi flag droping in and fade lights to th sound of bambs. Then House lights up and it's over.
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