Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

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Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 12:25pm

BWW Radio just put it into rotation and I still don't get it. I'm trying, I really am but I can't get into this.

Thank you so much Fair. You are such a "Bewitching" HUSSY! -(DAME 12/2)

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 1:03pm

You're asking to get an iron slammed down on you, saying things like that on this board...

Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 1:11pm

Fair, don't base your opinion on one song... this show isn't about a hummable tune... this is music that really should be heard in the context of the actions of the story... THEN, the music would make more sense on it's own...

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 1:21pm

I did try! I saw the show. I wasn't into it. I've spoken with people about the show and some have suggested I listen to the music as well. It's not working for me.

Thank you so much Fair. You are such a "Bewitching" HUSSY! -(DAME 12/2)

Updated On: 9/28/04 at 01:21 PM

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 1:22pm

When Veanne Cox started one of her songs near the beginning, my friend leaned over and said to me, "I HATE recitative," and I whispered back, "Well, you're in a for a long night, baby..."

Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

Updated On: 9/28/04 at 01:22 PM

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 1:46pm

Fair to Middlin, don't worry about it. My boyfriend saw it with his best friend, and they both hated it with a passion. I have the CD, I like the music and can appreciate it. BUt it's not a hummable catchy show. I do wish I saw the show itself, though.

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 1:51pm

You aren't supposed to like it, it's good for you! I hear you. Love Tonya. Love Kushner. Didn't love the show. But knew it was good for me to see it. Did not buy the soundtrack, though.

So my dear you think you can get to Broadway. Well, let me tell you something. Broadway has no room for people like you. Not the Broadway I know. My Broadway takes people like you and eats them up and spits them out. My Broadway is the Broadway of Merman, and Martin, and Fontaine, and if you think you can build yourself up by knocking other people down... ...GOOD LUCK... Seinfeld

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 1:51pm

There are so very few people who saw Caroline who just thought it was "eh". It's one of those shows you either love with a passion or despise with all your being.

Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 1:54pm

I thought it was quite good - I didn't think it was the work of genius that a lot of people seemed to believe.

Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

#10

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 2:01pm

I actually thought it was eh.

I appreciated it, but I didn't like it. I could see what other people liked about it, but I didn't like it myself.

#11

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 2:45pm

I can't wait 'til it gets the respect it deserves in 20 years.

But I won't live alone in a house of regret.

#12

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 2:48pm

sndtrklvr - you couldn't have bought the soundtrack - since there isn't one available. Now you COULD buy the Original Broadway Cast Recording - but that would be very different.
*sheesh*

"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!" Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!

#13

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 2:50pm

Leo I couldn't have said it better!

(Confessed Caroline Lover here)

Updated On: 9/28/04 at 02:50 PM

#14

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 2:50pm

LOL redhot!! Where've you been all day, schmoopie?

Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

#15

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 2:51pm

I loved it and found the show to be very thought-provoking as well as providing some of the best performances I've seen in a long time. Jarico thought it was boring when we saw, though he admits he was pretty tired from 5 days of NYC turbo-vacationing, but the show stayed with him and now he really likes it. It's certainly not a show for everyone, but I found it to be a unique artistic achievement. Kushner doesn't want to hand out a simple story on a platter and then hold the audience's hand as they are spoon-fed the story. He finds a abstract way to tell a story using personification, history, theology, mythology, symbology, urban legend, and other literary devices to elevate the common man (on in this case, woman) as a hero of epic proportions. I find it utterly fascinating.

"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

#16

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 2:54pm

I don't think she was drawn as a hero at all but as a human being just doing what she needed to do (and hated to do) for her and her family's survival. No hero would treat a child the way she treated that boy.

Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

#17

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 2:56pm

Well sweetie, I really mean it! It certainly is brilliant - there are very few book mistakes if any, and Tesori's music should have had no competition at the Tony's. An abundance of gorgeous, painstaking metaphors, 3 heart-felt story lines, and honest character construction in addition to the visual and aural eye candy, make this musical as close to perfect as anyone can wish. Is it for everyone? Certainly not.

Kushner's heros and protagonists always have many problems (and by problems I don't mean mistakes)- and he is even criticized that his characters are unrealistic!

But I won't live alone in a house of regret.

Updated On: 9/28/04 at 02:56 PM

#18

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 2:56pm

mister Matt - exactly - and why should anyone spoon-feed an audience? thats what's killing America - the "dumbing down" of all aspects of life. I love the fact that with Kushner (not unlike Sondheim) you have GOT to listen to the show and give it thought in order to get all the proper entertainment value out of it. I LIKE that.
Rath - I've been busier than a one-armed-paper-hanger, sweetums

#19

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 2:58pm

I am starting my very own Amen corner over here Leo! It's like you read my mind.

#20

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 2:58pm

CAROLINE was no MOVIN' OUT, I'll say that much!

"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."

#21

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 3:00pm

Matt_G you silly thing.

#22

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 3:02pm

Silly my hebrew butt. MOVIN' OUT was a theatrical experience I can only imagine being matched by the opening night of WEST SIDE STORY.

"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."

#23

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 3:04pm

wow - I can't tell if you're being serious or very sarcastic. I haven't seen Movin Out - so I can't say - but Caroline was one of the best pieces of theatre I've seen in years.

#24

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 3:06pm

CAROLINE was crap. Sorry guys, it just was.

MOVIN' OUT and MAMMA MIA are the definition of musical theatre. Those shows have song and dance and an actual plot unlike your precious civil rights show.

"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."

#25

re: Caroline- I can't, I just can't!!!

Posted: 9/28/04 at 3:08pm

ahhh- I get it now....

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