Cast recording different from the show- Page 3

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 9/16/06 at 8:03pm

for the Lion King CD I really miss the "Be Prepared" reprise. I wish they would have recorded that. Updated On: 9/16/06 at 08:03 PM

[WickedGeek28]

Posted: 9/16/06 at 8:27pm

That reminded me about that scene, CATS. I love that sequence in the theatre.

[SweeneyPhanatic]

Posted: 9/16/06 at 9:16pm

Someone mentioned that the "Titanic" recording is missing a lot of music. Keep in mind that there is a lot of sung dialogue in that show, none of which is worth putting on the album (unless you are doing a complete recording with transitional music and all). The only songs not recorded were "Wake Up! Wake Up!" and "The Staircase."

The OBC of "Chicago" has a lot of cuts, and "Me And My Baby" is extrmemly short. "I Know a Girl" is also non existent on that album.

"The Phantom of the Opera" has a lot of changes from the recording to the actual show.

[Mythus]

Posted: 9/16/06 at 10:10pm

The Spamalot also has a little dance break music in the beginning of Finland that isn't in the show...and there's no "King Arthur's Song" on the CD, for some odd reason. Oh, and "Run Away" has a verse on the CD that isn't in the show and never was. In the show, it starts with the Frenchman laughing musically (which isn't on the CD, I miss it :) and then going into the "You English all are bugger folk" et cetera.

[frontrowcentre2]

Posted: 9/17/06 at 3:36am

Then there are cast recordings that have changed when they were reissued as CD's....

1. KISS ME KATE - The Sony Cd uses a longer takes of "We Open in Venice", "I Hate Men" and "Too Darn hot." (As originally recorded these songs may have been too long to fit on 78-RPM records.)

2. MISS LIBERTY uses many alternate takes. Though the dialogue lead-ins are the same they are read in a much more declamatory fashion.

3. GENTLEMEN PREFER BLONDES also uses alternate takes and ads some dialogue and musical segments that were not heard on any previous release.

4. THE PAJAMA GAME - for both CD releases an alternate take of "7 1/2 Cents" us used with poor Stanley Prager's voice giving out due to hoarseness. That did not happen on the take used for the Lp release.

5. BELLS ARE RINGING - on the Sony reissue they discovered a section of the master tape for "I'm Going back" was damaged so for about 30 seconds the track switches to a mono alternate take then back to stereo again.

6. DAMN YANKEES! - The RCA Victor CD restores a few dialogue lines left off the original LP release.

7. GYPSY - Several alterations were made for the Sony Cd including restoring a section of "You Gotta Get a Gimmick" that had been edited for the LP release, restoring an alternate take of the last half of "All I Need is the Girl” so we hear Louise giggling, adding some extra stripper music in "Let Me Entertain You" and using an alternate take of "Together Wherever We Go."

8. 110 IN THE SHADE adds the Overture that was not heard on the Lp. (It was never intended for release. The orchestra recorded it once so the engineers could check levels.) Actually the record does open better with "Gonna Be Another hot Day."

9. JAMAICA - RCA Victor's original cast recording has had a curious history. It was made just as the labels were transitioning from mono to stereo recording. At that time it was not possible to fit as much material on a stereo 12-inch LP as on its mono counterpart. RCA Victor issued JAMAICA in mono as LOC 1036 containing all the show's songs but leaving out the Overture and editing out the introductions to "Savannah's Wedding Day" and "What Good Does it Do?" A few months later a Living Stereo release came out as LSO 1036 and including the Overture but dropping 4 songs ("Pity the Sunset", "What Good Does it Do?", "For Every Fish" and "Savannah (Finale)") These issues were deleted in 1961. In 1965 RCA Victor re-released JAMAICA in mono and stereo as LOC/LSO 1103. Now, LOC 1103 was a direct reissue of LOC 1036. BUT...are you following all this? ... LSO 1103 had all the songs, including the extended versions of "Savannah's Wedding Day" and "What Good Does it Do?" but like its mono counterpart, left off the Overture. The 1995 RCA Victor CD release had the complete song program and the Overture. That CD sadly is now in cutout limbo. A new edition (paired with PORGY AND BESS) reissues the program as heard on the 1965 stereo LP edition (LSO 1103) and is missing the Overture.

10. Many Decca cast albums were complete on 78 RPM but truncated to fit early Lp releases and have only been fully restored for the CD editions. OKLAHOMA! was missing 3 songs on LP, CARMEN JONES was missing 2, UP IN CENTRAL PARK was missing 1 song, SONG OF NORWAY had introductions lopped off 4 tracks and made internal edits in two others, and BABES IN TOYLAND was reduced from 10 songs in the 78 RPM album to just 6 on the 12" Lp release.

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 9/17/06 at 3:55am

The Overture on the original 1964 recording of HELLO, DOLLY! is not the overture that is actually written in the score.

OF course, the show was original performed without an overture - it was added just for the CD - but still, what's in the score is different from what we hear.

[Janelle188]

Posted: 9/17/06 at 4:14am

I don't think anyone mentioned this . . . they may have so forgive me if it's already been brought up but there's a few differences in sequence on "The Scarlet Pimpernel" recording. For example, "Storybook Ending" is at the beginning of the show (or was when I saw it on tour) and it's at the end of the CD.

[best12bars]

Posted: 9/17/06 at 9:21am

If you want to talk about major cast differences from older Broadway shows... nothing beats leading lady Ethel Merman MISSING from the "Call Me Madam" original cast album!

She was signed under a different record label at the time, and they refused to let her record for another label... So you had the Original Broadway Cast WITHOUT Ethel on one recording (using Dinah Shore instead!), and another recording of Ethel Merman (and a phony group of studio singers) "singing songs from Call Me Madam." Very strange... and unfortunate!

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 9/17/06 at 10:53am

This thread is fascinating.

THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE - At the end of "Jimmy", in the actual show Millie sings:

"Jimmy, I might say..."

Then we see Jimmy come to Miss Dorothy's door, and Millie sees them, Jimmy & Dorothy have some dialogue and that's the end of the song.

But on the CD, she finishes it, gloriously:

"Jimmy, I might say...yes!" (Rock it out, Sutton!)

JERSEY BOYS - On the CD, Daniel has dialogue that leads into OH WHAT A NIGHT, while in the actual show he just starts singing, finishes the first verse, THEN says his dialogue.

Updated On: 9/17/06 at 10:53 AM

[frontrowcentre2]

Posted: 9/17/06 at 8:44pm

re CALL ME MADAM

Naxos is releasing a new CD of CALL ME MADAM combining selections from both the RCA "Broadway cast" album and Ethel Merman's Decca disc of "12 Songs from CALL ME MADAM" plus some bonus tracks from the movie soundtrack album.

(I did the same thing on my radio show years ago...what goes around, comes around.)

Updated On: 9/17/06 at 08:44 PM