Cast recording different from the show- Page 2

[wickedrentq]

Posted: 8/27/06 at 2:35am

Also in DRS, the first line of the second verse of Ruprecht is different on the CD than the show.

Quite a few aspects of West Side Story. Particularly the finale, which has a chorus singing a verse that is never sung at that point. I'm pretty sure it was done for the purpose of the CD itself.

A solo Tony sings while Maria goes in during "Balcony Scene" is cut.

Lots of Dance At the Gym is chopped--none of the beginning music, promenade, jump, or the first page of Mambo. Cha-cha ends really weird, first with the ending of the underscore before One Hand, One Heart and then to music that doesn't exist in the score. Parts of Nightmare are also cut.

In Music Man, almost every dance is chopped down on the CD.

Fame: the Musical, the American tour cast recording, has a whole phrase that doesn't exist in the score. "Teacher's Argument"...the dance teacher sings "this one is different" and the music trails off and becomes slower and she sings "I can see that unremarkable me...as if I were no one." That whole part exists no where in the score.

Once On This Island cuts some dances as well, but interestingly, there are a lot of extra instruments playing on that CD--trumpets and flute doubles, and those parts don't exist in the score.

There's a lot of differences in the Miss Saigon OLCR and at least the tour I saw, but I'm not sure if the original London production was the same as the CD.

I *think* Tarzan ends differently. The CD ends with Jane reprising Two Worlds with Tarzan, but I don't remember her doing that in the show.

[AuditioningWaitress]

Posted: 8/27/06 at 12:47pm

Also, sometimes the arrangements are completely different. I loved "Come Spirit Come Charm" from THE SECRET GARDEN in the theatre. Very earthy arrangements...and on the CD it's very orchestrated.

[allofmylife]

Posted: 8/27/06 at 2:16pm

Every time I have directed "West Side Story" (sorry, Music Theater International) I have copied the OCR and started the show with the arresting eight bars from the fight scene before the snapping of fingers. It works so well and after the band has smashed into that opening, the audience is riveted to the stage and a single illuminated hand, fingers snapping. I tried it the way the show is supposed to open and prople were always whispering and missing the opening.

That way really works.

[Parks]

Posted: 8/27/06 at 2:27pm

I always wondered about that in Spelling Bee. I didn't remember it, and I always skip over it when I come to it in the cast recording.

[Yankeefan007]

Posted: 8/27/06 at 2:30pm

Tarzan ends with him and Jane swinging out, the ensemble reprising Two Worlds.

[Cabchic]

Posted: 8/27/06 at 3:02pm

Spamalot has additional lyrics in Run Away that got cut from the show.
Also in Knights of the Roundtable there are lyrics(the lady of the lake sings) on the recording that was not normally performed during the show, but Sara Ramirez did perform them at her final performance.

[sondheimboy2]

Posted: 8/27/06 at 3:04pm

I saw "Sunday in the Park with George" right after it opened. In the opening number, Dot sings another verse about the trickle of sweat ("A trickle of sweat/the small of the back/a little further/Thank God, it hit the crack") and the nurse a verse before "Mother's may drone may whine..." and there were a few other verses that I noticed missing when the cast album came out.

But, I just put that down to trying to fit a show with that much music on one disc. I was suprised to find those verses missing from the show when I went to see them again. I didn't miss the nurses verse that much (where Sondheim rhymed "Sundays make you feel young" with "Flings to be flung") but I still miss the verse about where the trickle of sweat ended up.

Regarding the OBC of "Sweeney Todd", Thomas Sheppard has told the story of how they didn't know how to represent the bodies sliding down the shute on the record and, when they came up with a sound effect that they liked, they stuck an extra body going down on the recording.

Looking at the other people's posting, I think that some of you aren't getting the fact that the album is more of a representation of the show, than an exact transcription of the show. If it were an exact transcription of the show, every cast album would be two or three CDs long. (I know, only in a perfect world.) And would you really want to listen to every note of the dance music of a show. Though having said that, I wish that there were a two CD complete recording of "Grand Hotel".

[mathewbrock]

Posted: 8/27/06 at 4:11pm

"A Change in Me" isn't on the OBC recording of BEAUTY AND THE BEAST because it was added to the show years later when (I think) Toni Braxton came in.

The original 42ND STREET recording is jumbled and out of order (most likely because it had to fit neatly on an LP). Also, the "Audition" sequence is only piano, and is missing 16-32 bars from the middle of it. The revival restored it to the way it is originally scored.

The recording of SIDE SHOW lost a lot of sung-through dialogue, but what I miss most is the absence of "Overnight Sensation." Also, the dance sequence in "We Share Everything" is shortened by at least half. But I think shows always tend to shorten dance sequences for the recordings. (Although I miss them terribly.)

Also, in regards to different orchestrations for a cast recording: Isn't is customary that when a show is recorded, the orchestra is filled out from what is in the pit during the actual show? More strings are generally added, and percussion sections are expanded as well... I think it's something necessary to make a show sound fuller on the recording.

If you look at the numbers shows perform on the Tony Awards, it's incredible to hear the difference in orchestrations. Most memorable for me was "It Sucks to Be Me" from AVENUE Q - played with the full orchestra in Radio City it sounded very different.


Updated On: 8/27/06 at 04:11 PM

[MCfan2]

Posted: 8/27/06 at 4:44pm

The original "1776" recording has Rex Everhart singing Franklin in place of cast member Howard da Silva, who was ill. If I remember correctly, da Silva soon came back to the show.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 8/27/06 at 4:48pm

In Superman,the dialogue between Lois Lane & Superman is put in at the beginning of the overture instead of in the middle where it originally was

[allofmylife]

Posted: 8/27/06 at 11:39pm

And we haven't even begun to touch on what they used to do in the 1940's and 50's. The SPED UP the dance music artificially after it was recorded to elbow it onto the LP's. The overture for Brigadoon plays much faster on the LP than the scoring calls for.

Posted: 8/27/06 at 11:45pm

On ALL SHOOK UP:

"One Night With You" is cut off at the end during the show, when everything unfreezes and is reprised several times in the show.

[Joshua488]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 12:01am

On the 2005 Broadway cast recording of Sweet Charity, "You Should See Yourself" actually had an ending. In the show, the song was cut short due to Charity being pushed into the lake.

[moulin724rouge]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 1:49am

"as daily she washes herself in the Ganges" is "as daily she cleanses herself in the Ganges" in the show of 25APCSB for my friend the dictionary
Updated On: 8/28/06 at 01:49 AM

[moulin724rouge]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 1:49am

"as daily she washes herself in the Ganges" is "as daily she cleanses herself in the Ganges" in the show of 25APCSB for my friend the dictionary

[moulin724rouge]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 1:49am

"as daily she washes herself in the Ganges" is "as daily she cleanses herself in the Ganges" in the show of 25APCSB for my friend the dictionary

[philcrosby]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 2:25pm

Many of the changes made during the Goddard Lieberson years (look it up, kids!) were because he was far less concerned with making a note-perfect recording of the show (something John Yap is doing brilliantly these days) and more concerned with making a great RECORDING that captured the essence and heart of the show.

He was the master and that legacy lives on in many of today's great cast album producers including Tom Shepard and Jay David Saks.

[ThankstoPhantom]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 2:39pm

The WIW OLCR has a different ending than what they used on opening night.

[jimnysf]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 2:49pm

I heard the "Lestat" CD is different than the show. For the CD, they decided to throw out the Broadway score and substitute a good one instead! That's why it's taking so long to get it released.

[goldenstate5]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 3:37pm

"If you look at the numbers shows perform on the Tony Awards, it's incredible to hear the difference in orchestrations. Most memorable for me was "It Sucks to Be Me" from AVENUE Q - played with the full orchestra in Radio City it sounded very different."

That's nothing compared to how Spelling Bee sounded at the Tony's. Talk about a difference!

Speaking of Avenue Q, the OBCR for that is now a bit different with the recent changes on Broadway. Purpose and There's Life Outside Your Apartment now are slightly different in the actual show, and For Now took out some dialouge (including the killer Scientology joke), as well as some in others...

[GYPSY3]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 4:24pm

Re.THE KING AND I, there simply wasn't room on the OBCR to include the 14 minute ballet "The Small House of Uncle Thomas".
It can be heard in its entire form on the 2 disc JEROME ROBBINS'
BROADWAY album. What a wonderful show that was!

There is dance music missing from the two vaudeville numbers on the OBCR of GYPSY. That music IS on the Tyne Daly and Bernadette
Peters CD's.

[i*heart*fame]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 5:03pm

Jersey Boys has some differences, including a shorter version of My Boyfriends Back on the OBCR

[bryan]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 6:37pm

just enjoy the cast recording and at leaset these shows got cast cd's made. i just want to see all shows to get cast cd's made like lennon and good virbations and in my life.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 6:44pm

Bryan, Bryan, Bryan

The 3 you mentioned are not coming out ever. Please get used to that idea as you will torture yourself ( and all of us ) by bringing up these 3 shows for eternity

[TLKfan]

Posted: 8/28/06 at 7:17pm

In the Les Mis OLC they have that little extra part where Cosette sings right before AHFOL.

Lion King has a whole song 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' that is not in the show...just like Bee I guess. And then some other little parts are added and taken out in the prod.

42nd is so crazy. Our school had numbers that came from two different CD's and we could never figure out what was going on because the tempo was off.