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Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound 2016-2017

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#25Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 12/10/15 at 4:43am

another expensive crash-and-burn incoming


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#26Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 12/10/15 at 6:11am

ggersten said: "My understanding is that the producers can't add songs from the Warner Brothers' movie, so all of those suggestions are for naught. They do not have the rights and I believe the Dahl estate is the major stumbling block.  "

Isn't it produced by Warner brothers though? 

 

Also what's wrong with the show the MTI has available?


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#27Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 12/10/15 at 9:45am

THR article this morning about Mendes dropping out of the Broadway version:

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sam-mendes-drops-broadway-bound-847495

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#28Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 12/10/15 at 9:52am

Would this be the first time a Broadway production that transferred from the west would have a different director?


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#29Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 12/10/15 at 12:02pm

The MTI show has additional Bricusse songs with aggressively "children's theater" lyrics. The original movie score may be better than much of the Shaiman-Wittman, but the Shaiman-Wittman score is much better than most of the additions to the Bricusse-Newley score.

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#30Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 12/10/15 at 12:37pm

Call_me_jorge said: "Would this be the first time a Broadway production that transferred from the west would have a different director?

 

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Sister Act was directed in London by Peter Schneider who was replaced in NYC by Jerry Zaks. Of course they also rewrote the book and had different orchestrations. Hopefully they will also do a overhaul of this show too.

Updated On: 12/10/15 at 12:37 PM

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#31Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 12/10/15 at 12:40pm

rosscoe(au) said: "They need to start from scratch, it really was up there with Ghost as one of the worst musicals I have ever seen, it's was a mess from start to finish, its biggest crime was it was dull. The show had no magic, no wonder, and not a single sense of fun.

Nothing worked, they really do need to start again, new score, new design , new book "

 

^^ This. ^^

Updated On: 12/10/15 at 12:40 PM

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#33Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 1/8/16 at 8:09am

I hope they overhaul the score. It was largely forgettable. They need to include the five movie songs. They are lightyears ahead of the new material and would anchor the production.


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#34Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 1/8/16 at 8:10am

^These changes will not fix the problems.  They should be replacing Shaiman & Whittman.

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#35Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 1/8/16 at 8:13am

I know he's not a spring chicken by any means, but a Jerry Herman score mixed with the film songs would be fantastic. Add the dark plot and satire in, and the balance would be just right.

 

EDIT: The point being they need a lush melodic, sentimental score (think of the five songs in the film) to balance the cold, dark, satirical plot and characters. That's one of the reason the movie works so well. It strikes a balance between poking fun at human nature and embracing it. It's satire with a heart. What's missing in the stage adaptation is the heart, especially in the score. It shouldn't echo the dark satire, it should counter and balance it.


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Updated On: 1/8/16 at 08:13 AM

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#36Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 1/8/16 at 9:56am

I know a lot of people who worked on this from the workshops onwards.

If you want to point fingers, aim them at Warner Bros.  Mendes and Darling had some wonderful ideas and they were thoroughly straight-jacketed.  No wonder they walked.  Whoever takes over now are likely to hit the same brick walls that the last creative team hit.

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#37Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 1/8/16 at 1:47pm

It's great to sit back and comment-you feel so 'cleansed'.

So---What are previews for?  To change,add,remove and by opening have the production teams' best collaboration of a show.

London audiences have been for however long and paying whatever prices to see the supposedly finished product that is Charlie.

Now it is Americas' turn and the producers say--this show is not good enough to take to Broadway, we really should have changed a whole lot before we opened-but didn't.

Of course, minor things change for different countries-but from what is being suggested here, major things are 'ahappening.

Sister Act in London was a mess[that one I saw] and believed was 'improved' for Broadway.

So the more I type ,and think,perhaps I've internally replied to myself that the Broadway version is just that-the Broadway version-and the London version is.......

I'll never see either but loved the Depp film best so that completely shoots down my post.

I'll leave it here, just because it's my early morning effort--now off for a run.

Happy Chatting

 

SL.....x

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#38Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 2/23/16 at 10:15am

West End run set to close in early 2017. Looks like it is becoming increasingly more possible for producers to feasibly transfer in spring of 2017.

 

http://www.broadway.com/buzz/183926/charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory-to-close-in-the-west-end-broadway-on-deck/

 

My (probably wrong) two cents: I personally could potentially see an early 2017 Matilda closing so Charlie could move into the Shubert that spring.

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#39Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 2/23/16 at 11:44am

"That golden tcket’s good for one more year. The West End production of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is set to close in 2017. The production, which began in 2013 at London’s Theatre Royal Drury Lane, is currently on sale through January 7. No official closing date has been announced."

just in this paragraph alone they say it's closing and it's not closing. Well which one is it?


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#40Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 2/23/16 at 11:46am

Jorge, I think they are essentially saying that they are bound/intending to close in early 2017 but they haven't committed to a specific closing date yet. Broadway.com is pointing out that tickets are on sale through January 7 at the moment, which may—but is not yet confirmed—be their final performance. I agree, though, it's written rather vaguely. If I worked at Broadway.com, I probably wouldn't have let the story go to print until there was a set date announced.

Updated On: 2/23/16 at 11:46 AM

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#41Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 2/27/16 at 7:49pm

newyorkcitytheatre.com list the Broadway opening as September 1st 2016. Also, after doing a bit of research, most of Warner Brothers Theatrical's productions except Elf have opened at Shubert Theatres (Curious Incident, Misery, Bridges of Madison County). So I think a Shubert Theatre is most likely. Plus, it does not look like any ideal Nederlander theatre will open up. So, I think it will play either the Broadway, Imperial, or Shubert.

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#42Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 2/27/16 at 7:53pm

My guess is the imperial since Les mis is already announced to be closing in September.


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#43Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 2/27/16 at 8:01pm

The Imperial actually makes the most sense. The size would be great, it will be available (as far as we know). Plus, I think Matilda still has some life left in.

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#44Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 2/27/16 at 8:09pm

Call_me_jorge said: "My guess is the imperial since Les mis is already announced to be closing in September.

 

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Isn't Miss Saigon going there?

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#45Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 2/27/16 at 9:52pm

disneybroadwayfan22 said: "Call_me_jorge said: "My guess is the imperial since Les mis is already announced to be closing in September.

 

 

 

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Isn't Miss Saigon going there?

 

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Was that announced?

 


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#46Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 2/27/16 at 10:42pm

Call_me_jorge said: "disneybroadwayfan22 said: "Call_me_jorge said: "My guess is the imperial since Les mis is already announced to be closing in September.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Isn't Miss Saigon going there?

 

 

 

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Was that announced?

 

 

 

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There were rumors on the boards

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#47Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 2/28/16 at 10:23am

disneybroadwayfan22 said: "Call_me_jorge said: "disneybroadwayfan22 said: "Call_me_jorge said: "My guess is the imperial since Les mis is already announced to be closing in September.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Isn't Miss Saigon going there?

 

 

It's possible that Fiddler on the Roof may vacate the theatre in time for Miss Saigon to return to its original Broadway home - the Broadway theatre.

 

 

 

 

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Was that announced?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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There were rumors on the boards

 

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#48Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 11/26/16 at 5:39pm

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/UP-ON-THE-MARQUEE-Roland-Dahls-CHARLIE-AND-THE-CHOCOLATE-FACTORY-20161125


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#49Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Broadway Bound
Posted: 11/26/16 at 9:06pm

I don't know if it's just me, but the purple and the font of the logo just don't look......fun? Like isn't that supposed to be the whole point of the show?


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