Choreographer of the year: Sergio Trujillo?
#25re: Choreographer of the year: Sergio Trujillo?
Posted: 12/29/09 at 2:35amPalJoey, that's so true. I'd actually forgotten about that (I have an awful memory). So glad you reminded me. I loved that whole sequence and the staging was a big part of it.
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#26re: Choreographer of the year: Sergio Trujillo?
Posted: 12/29/09 at 10:58amQuestion it all you want. It was inventive and different and interesting. It was something different, and it took risks. I don't see any risks being taken in Memphis. Sure, it's fun and upbeat, but it doesn't stand out to me as "great" choreography. Look at Robbins' West Side Story. It was something different and totally unique and has yet to be even touched today. Same with Fosse. I don't see Trujillo as having that same style as in saying "oh, I can totally tell that's a Trujillo move." He does great work, but he's nobody I'd say "wow." Say what you will about Jones (I didn't care for Fela!), but I thought his work on Spring Awakening was pretty brilliant. Just because it doesn't involve lifts and unison dancing doesn't mean it's not choreography.
#27re: Choreographer of the year: Sergio Trujillo?
Posted: 12/29/09 at 11:10am
I don't think anyone suggested it wasn't choreography. I think they believe it wasn't GOOD choreography. And I'm with Wonderwa11 on this one. The choreography for SA was ridiculous. Jumping around and herky-jerky robotic hand motions do not GOOD choreography make. But that's been re-hashed a thousand times here already so I'll stop there.
More to the point, you write:
"I don't see Trujillo as having that same style as in saying "oh, I can totally tell that's a Trujillo move."
With the possible exception of Twyla Tharp, are there ANY choreographers working on Broadway today that can truly be said to have a "signature" style. Or forget signature style -- is there anyone working today who has shown promise for creating, re-defining or heck, even just expanding the "language" of theatrical dance a la de Mille, Robbins, Bennett or Fosse?
Regrettably, I feel like the answer is no. Even Twyla isn't revolutionizing theatrical dance. She's putting her style of dance -- remarkable as it is -- on Broadway so inherently, it can be included in the discussion, but unless/until she creates something for Broadway that is a theatrical piece first and a dance piece second (something that isn't just a string of individual dances hung on a very loose plot, albeit thrillingly), she remains an outsider whose work isn't likely to have much effect down the road on theatrical dance.
#28re: Choreographer of the year: Sergio Trujillo?
Posted: 12/29/09 at 11:35am
With the possible exception of Twyla Tharp, are there ANY choreographers working on Broadway today that can truly be said to have a "signature" style.
The most obvious is Andy Blankenbuehler, but I also think that all choreographers have their own style. I can always pick out Kathleen Marshall's, Rob Ashford's, or Jerry Mitchell's choreography. Any real dancer would be able to see the differences in their styles.
#29re: Choreographer of the year: Sergio Trujillo?
Posted: 12/29/09 at 11:39am
Say what you will about Jones (I didn't care for Fela!), but I thought his work on Spring Awakening was pretty brilliant. Just because it doesn't involve lifts and unison dancing doesn't mean it's not choreography.
And just because it's different doesn't mean it is brilliant. It added NOTHING to the story or feeling of the show. It was just laughable. The purpose of having choreography in a show is to help set the tone. The choreography in Spring Awakening does not do that. It just looks ridiculous and out of place.
#30re: Choreographer of the year: Sergio Trujillo?
Posted: 12/29/09 at 11:45am
Wow...I couldn't disagree more.
Andy Blankenbuehler is by no means an obvious choice. First, he needs a greater body of work before he can be said to be re-defining anything. Second, "The Apple Tree" and "9 to 5" were pretty awful. Third, while "In The Heights" is wonderful, so much of it is cribbed from existing street and/or latin choreographers and dancers who do it even better. Had he expanded more significantly on their work, I could give him more credit, but lifting so much of it wholesale and plopping it onto a Broadway stage does not make him a revolutionary.
As for Ashford, Marshall and Mitchell:
-- yes, they have some stylistic tendencies that often make their work recognizable, but it's rarely, if ever, anything unique or special or different or groundbreaking.
-- it shouldn't take "any real dancer" to recognize the difference, if the style is sufficiently special. The fact that even to an avid theatregoer, Ashford often looks like Marshall (not so surprising since he assisted her) which often looks like Mitchell, says something about how homogenized Broadway dance has become.
#31re: Choreographer of the year: Sergio Trujillo?
Posted: 12/29/09 at 12:00pm
We are clearly talking about two different things. I agree with you that The Apple Tree choreography was awful, but I could still tell you it was done by Andy Blankenbuehler without looking in the playbill. I didn't mean that everything has to be done WELL in that signature style. Kathleen Marshall's Grease choreography was terrible, but it was still very Kathleen Marshall. My point is that it is very easy to recognize choreography done by the 4 people I mentioned, whether or not it is good or appropriate for a specific show.
it shouldn't take "any real dancer" to recognize the difference, if the style is sufficiently special. The fact that even to an avid theatregoer, Ashford often looks like Marshall (not so surprising since he assisted her) which often looks like Mitchell, says something about how homogenized Broadway dance has become.
I don't think it SHOULD require a dancer to recognize the difference, but anyone who is a dancer should. (EDIT: Allow me to clarify this sentence as on second glance its language is totally convoluted. I don't think one needs to be a dancer to recognize the difference. But, if one IS a dancer but cannot recognize the difference in these styles, something is seriously wrong). I don't agree with you that Marshall and Ashford look alike. Ashford is much more syncopated and accented by sharp movements on strong beats. Marshall is more fluid, each number being a sequence of movements flowing from one to the next. And Mitchell looks NOTHING like either of them.
Updated On: 12/29/09 at 12:00 PM
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#32re: Choreographer of the year: Sergio Trujillo?
Posted: 12/29/09 at 1:29pmGreat (and unexpected) discussion on the state of today's Broadway choreographers!
#33re: Choreographer of the year: Sergio Trujillo?
Posted: 12/29/09 at 1:43pm
I agree with bjh. I'm a dancer myself and have performed both Marshall's and Ashford's choreography. Ashford's choreography is very tight, very sharp, and very springy (like a spring board). Where Marshall is a more loose and each movement blends and flows into each other.
If you're a dancer you should be able to tell the difference between choreographer's styles.
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