Look, pleats!
And UNDERWEAR!
It doesn't make being a shill right if the show received good reviews.
I HEART PEE WEE HERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!
I know for a fact that there are many, many other people on here who rave about shows that have invested in it and as I said, Im not 'whoring' the fact that my parents are investors, I used that fact to make a point.
Seriously, why are you people being so mean? Im just speaking my mind.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
Plum, they mean nothing if the difference in ticket sales was negligable. Avenue Q did about as much business (80-96%) last year as DRS is doing this year, in comparison to the sold out Wicked and Spamalot phenomenons.
I already made my counterargument to that- Avenue Q took up all the "little show that could" points that Tony voters are going to give for a while. Spamalot is the big, fat sold-out hit that will no doubt spawn a profitable tour, and Spelling Bee is the critical darling that may or may not do so. It's not an exact Wicked-Avenue Q parallel (there's fewer screaming teenage girls involved), but it's close.
I think we're just taking two different conclusions from the closeness of the situations. You assume this means Spelling Bee will win, because Avenue Q won. I remain convinced that Avenue Q's win was an aberration that's not likely to be repeated. It's the exception that proves the rule, and the rule is that Tony voters are an inherently conservative bunch. They'll go with the giant hit.
Though heaven knows I'd like to be wrong- if Avenue Q's win marked the beginning of a new trend rather than an anomalous blip, I'd be a happy girl.
Thanks for that, Wicked4Lyfe.
Funny you two pop up at the same time, kiddies.
I didn't say you were whoring that your parents are investors. I said you were were whoring the show.
You should read the self-helo book: "I'm a Shill and Didn't Even Know It"
Ok, anyway, whatever
Can ANYONE ever just apoligize and move on? People on here always have to throw in that last little bitchy comment.
FACT: Im not a shill
FACT: This thread needs to get back on topic.
Plum, I wasn't making a Wicked/Q = Spam/Bee comparison, I was making it Spam/DRS. I don't think Bee will win. I think DRS has a good chance.
Plum, have a little faith! Surely not all Tony voters are so money-driven - if you truly believe this is how the awards are decided, in such a calculated and cynical manner, why afford them any respect? Perhaps this is naive, but I believe that previous results should have no bearing whatsoever on the outcome. Every year is a new contest! May the best show win.
Anyone wanna see Bee with me this week?
HAHA
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
The chink in that parallel is that Dirty Rotten Scoundrels wasn't the critical hit Avenue Q was, or Spelling Bee is. And it doesn't have the endearing "little show from Off-Broadway" vibe, either.
Thenardier, I just saw it this afternoon. Good times.
ahhh....are you pulling for DRS or Bee? Or Spamalot?
DRS for Best Musical ever written. Do they have those kind of Tony Awards?
OH MY FREAKING GOD!
What are your problems?!?!!? Do you understand that youre seriously hurting my feelings. Lord, almighty. Dont you ever know when enough is enough?
Um, why do we owe apologies?
Best ever written? Ga, you're a shill. And why don't you know that award doesn't exist? Let's start a petition.
That was far too ambiguous, Thenardier...
In my head.... the flying car wins best actress?
I am a backwards shill. Apparently, I've talked DRS up so much that my father won't even let me take him.
Em, my "In my head they do" response was too Ga's comment that there should be a best musical ever award. But you responded before I did.
But as I said many a time, that machine in Dracula takes the cake as best thing in the theatre ever.
Where can I get one?
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