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#27

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 5:14pm

MARY POPPINS was only nominated for Best Musical last season as a way to push LEGALLY BLONDE out of the category, in order to protect the SPRING AWAKENING's Best Musical Award from the money grubbing road voters.

LOVEMUSIK just wasn't good enough for a Best Musical nomination. It was a disaster.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad

"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#29

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 5:17pm

"MARY POPPINS was only nominated for Best Musical last season as a way to push LEGALLY BLONDE out of the category, in order to protect the SPRING AWAKENING's Best Musical Award from the money grubbing road voters."

Where did you come up with that?
#30

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 5:20pm

Riedel
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad

"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#31

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 5:28pm

I guess reviews can give us a beter idea - funny thing, is that I went through all the off-Broadway and try out reviews and from positive to not so much, it went PS, ITH, CB and CA.
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
#32

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 5:35pm

""MARY POPPINS was only nominated for Best Musical last season as a way to push LEGALLY BLONDE out of the category, in order to protect the SPRING AWAKENING's Best Musical Award from the money grubbing road voters."

Where did you come up with that?"

It's the truth. By and large, and as much as I dislike it, Spring Awakening was indeed the best new musical of the 2006-2007 season. I will happily shill CURTAINS (and by God, I do), but Curtains was an old fashioned musical comedy up against the innovated, rejuvinated rock musical genre.

If Legally Blonde would have been nominated, it would have won, for the simple fact that the voters, the road voters, that is, would have picked the bubblegum musical over a show which includes circle jerks and gay love.

Mary Poppins snuck in because LoveMusik was so bad.
#33

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 5:38pm

"MARY POPPINS was only nominated for Best Musical last season as a way to push LEGALLY BLONDE out of the category, in order to protect the SPRING AWAKENING's Best Musical Award from the money grubbing road voters.

LOVEMUSIK just wasn't good enough for a Best Musical nomination. It was a disaster."

Mary Poppins actually was not the safest pick in order to guard CRAPTACULAR 2007!'s Tony. LoveMusik would have been. Mary Poppins was probably just as popular with the moronish, greedy road voters that don't know very much about theatre as Legally Bland would have. LoveMusik would have garnered very few votes from them and probably guared HYPERPRETENTIA ON ICE its Tony moreso.
And I thought LoveMusik was a great work of art. It was a helluva lot better than HOW TO SUCCEED IN BEING PRETENTIOUS WHILE REALLY TRYING. It was a little long and a little hard to follow, but I found Hal Prince's director to be apt, I thought the book was fairly good and the two star performances exceptional.
But that was last year. On with the new!
#35

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 6:17pm

Oh I'm sure YF and TLM will pick up some noms. YF might get nominations for its set design, orchestrations, costumes, lighting, and perhaps sound. The cast might also pick up a couple nods. But I don't think Brooks and Company should hold their breath for Best Score, and Musical nominations, although I think it might have a shot at a Best Book nom.

Pretty much the same goes for The Little Mermaid. Some of the cast members might get nominations, but I think TLM can certainly rule out Scenic and Costume design nods (when I saw it, I thought the set was a gigantic crowded mess, and the costumes a mishmash of abstract designs and designs based off the movie). I also don't think they should count on a Best Book nomination either.

"You drank a charm to kill John Proctor's wife! You drank a charm to kill Goody Proctor!" - Betty Parris to Abigail Williams in Arthur Miller's The Crucible

Updated On: 2/14/08 at 06:17 PM

#36

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 6:27pm

Original Books this season:

In The Heights
Passing Strange
[title of show]

Adapted Book by 4-time Tony Winning Legend:

A CATERED AFFAIR

Raved about Book that turned the worst movie of all time into a beloved stage musical:

XANADU

There are only four Best Book slots.

There will be no room for THE LITTLE MERMAID or YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN in that category.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad

"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#38

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 8:33pm

As someone who has seen all the shows I would have to say that

A Catered Affair (with new/additional orchestrations from Jonathan Tunick) and In the Heights are the strongest all around shows. I liked Xanadu a lot but it doesn't feel like a Best Musical to me. A Fun show but not a best musical.

Cry Baby has weak directing, terrible book and weak music.
Passing Strange is a great Off-Broadway show that should have never moved to Broadway. At the invited dress the show was a mess and there is no need for Act Two.

The Little Mermaid is a perfect example of too much money ruins the pudding, the show is just bad compared to the original property.
Title of show is another good Off-Broadway show that probably doesn't work nearly as well in a Broadway house. These are just my opinions.

Updated On: 2/14/08 at 08:33 PM

#39

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 8:41pm

You guys are on serious medication if you think Xanadu will get anywhere near getting Best Musical
And anyway, who assumed anything? Where did this thread come from?
A young actress with Noel coward after a dreadful opening night performance said to him 'Well, i knew my lines backwards this morning!'' Noels fast reply was ''Yes dear, and thats exactly how you said them tonight'!'

Updated On: 2/14/08 at 08:41 PM

#40

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 9:14pm

In the Mermaid is a perfect example of too much money ruins the pudding, the show is just bad compared to the original property.

What the hell is IN THE MERMAID?
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad

"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#42

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 9:17pm

Bad, bad things have been said about In the Heights' book. I mean, Quiara Alegria-Hudes is good, and I'm sure they've done some work, but critics are likely to still be doubtful of its worth.
Same goes with Mermaid, although it probably didn't have a chance to begin with.
#43

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 9:32pm

I am sorry to rain on your parade guys.. but THE LITTLE MERMAID & YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN wont be nominated for BEST NEW MUSICAL. Its a very tight race this year...Most likely XANADU might not even make it....if CATERED AFFAIR & CRY BABY get a lot of good reviews (better than XANADU) or TITLE OF THE SHOW make it thru the cut-off date...


THE LITTLE MERMAID & YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN are higly unlikely... based on the reviews.. as WBaF said... NO ROOM FOR IT!!!

J*


Edit : I like wecrazy, WBaF, YankeFan, Blaxx's assesments- those ALL MAKE SENSE!


Updated On: 2/14/08 at 09:32 PM

#44

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 9:42pm

Spring Awakening's book sucked...

The Little Mermaid and Young Frankenstein will not get a Best Musical nom. I think [TOS] should wait until next season to open because this is not a good time.
"I mean, sitting side by side with another man watching Patti LuPone play Rose in GYPSY on Broadway is essentially the equivalent of having hardcore sex." -Wanna Be A Foster. "Say 'Goody.' Say 'Bubbi.'" ... "That's it. Exactly as if it were 'Goody.' Now I know you're gonna sing 'Goody' this time, but nevertheless..."
#46

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/14/08 at 11:16pm

What's with the sentiment to wait until next year to open? What's to say we won't get 3-4 very strong shows opening next year that could just as easily keep TOS from getting any sort of nomination for best new musical. We know that Shrek and Billy Elliot both open next season and while no one seems to expect much from Shrek, Billy Elliot did win the Olivier in London.
#47

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/15/08 at 12:17am

passing strange is most definitely a musical. with a fleshed out book and score. It compliments, or should i say infuses the musical format with an event style. its on its fifth preview, there will be changes and it most definitely deserves to be uptown.

my predictions are

*lock*
passing strange
a catered affair
in the heights

cry baby
TLM
TOS
YF

Updated On: 2/15/08 at 12:17 AM

#48

re: Curiousity: Why is it assumed that ACateredAffair & Cry-Baby will be no

Posted: 2/15/08 at 12:20am

I have to agree with so many of you, (tos) should definitely wait 'til '08-'09 season. That way, the competition won't be as stiff - with BILLY making his way across the pond, West 51st St. going "green" for SHREK, and the (oh-too-heavily wishful thinking) that is the N2N transfer - it'll give the bunch a fair shot at 'making it' all the more evident.

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