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#26

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Yes, Al, Beyonce is Deena, cuz Deena is Beyonce!

I swear the DG Movie casting comes up so often. I remember the one that lasted for over a year on the old bway.com boards. I know it annoys some people but I could talk about DG all day.
#27

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Duane from APPLAUSE.

"...But ALIVE!"
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney
#28

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i was fortunate enough to have seen four Deenas: Sheryl Lee Ralph, Linda Leilani Brown, Phylicia Ayers-Allen (now known to everyone as Phylicia Rashad) and Alysa Gyse. By far the worst sung Deena I have seen, IMO was Linda. Her thin whiny high pitched voice grated on my nerves. Visually she was perfect a dead ringer for Ross, but when she opened that mouth - - - ugh.
Second best Deena was Alysa Gyse, third best was Rashad and the best one was Lee Ralph, when I saw it she hadn't started "phoning it from New Jersey" re: DREAMGIRLS Movie Casting
#29

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Margo, Your story of Jennifer's Holiday's audition was great. Where do you get these stories????
So my dear you think you can get to Broadway. Well, let me tell you something. Broadway has no room for people like you. Not the Broadway I know. My Broadway takes people like you and eats them up and spits them out. My Broadway is the Broadway of Merman, and Martin, and Fontaine, and if you think you can build yourself up by knocking other people down... ...GOOD LUCK... Seinfeld
#30

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sndtrklvr - Margo's been around - and has a memory like an elephant re: DREAMGIRLS Movie Casting
#31

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Margo, have I told you lately that I love you
Dreamgirls was the first musical I ever heard, my dad would sing me "Family" and "You Are My Dream" to me as lullabies when I was a baby
you've taught me more about this incrediable show than I ever knew was possible and I just can't thank you enough
*hug* re: DREAMGIRLS Movie Casting
#32

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bwaystar2b - those are two of my favorite songs EVER - and your story brought tears to my eyes - what a beautiful image.
#33

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Sometimes I think I know too much about "Dreamgirls," but it's partly because a couple of my best friends in the 80s and 90s were in the show on Broadway and over the years I got to ask every single question I ever had about the show -- about Bennett, about the various casts and replacements (I know TONS of the backstage scuttlebutt -- who hated who, who was a diva, who was fun to work with.....), about how the show worked (I found out how they did that seemingly impossible five second costume change in the middle of "Heavy"), and ALL of the gossip (a couple of the Effie understudies' backstabbing antics behind the scenes would put Eve Harrington to shame). I've met and gotten to know over dozen members of the various casts (including Jennifer, Loretta and most of the original cast) and traded stories with them.

Jennifer, I've followed from "Your Arms Too Short" and "Dreamgirls" through the projects that never went to NYC ("Sing Mahalia, Sing," "Harlem Suite"), through her concerts (I've seen more than a dozen), and her many many setbacks. She "became" Effie after "Dreamgirls," with a reputation, well-earned, for being one of the most dificult people to deal with in the business -- a huge ego that's gotten her fired several times over the years.

IMO, she had, for a period from the 80s through the early 90s, the single greatest gospel/r&b instrument in the history of popular music. In range, control, power, and sheer vocal creativity and dynamics, no one -- not Aretha, Gladys, Labelle, Mahalia, Chaka (all of whom I idolize and ultimately had far greater careers than Holliday) was ever better. She could do nearly everything that they could do, and several things that no one else on planet had even thought about trying to do. She even did a few things that I didn't think that the human voice was capable of -- stuff that made anything she did in Dreamgirls sound like child's play. Yet, she spent much of that time without a record contract, went through a couple of bad, short-lived marriages (men who attached themselves to her for her fame and used her), a bankruptcy, life-threatening health issues, weight fluctuations, a suicide attempt and a littany of other problems. She's Effie without "One Night Only" and there doesn't appear to be a big comeback in sight.

On top of everything else, the years of health issues and vocal abuse have robbed her once great instrument of its unmatched luster. She still is a great singer, but she's lost some of her range (which once spanned some four octaves -- from the rock bottom of the alto range into the stratosphere of the highest soprano range), her vibrato wobbles, her tone is coarse and you can hear the strain and struggle it takes for her to pull off the things she used to do effortlessly. Still a great voice (better than all but an elite few) but a shadow of what it was even ten years ago. Most of her income for many years has come from (I'm not kidding) singing "And I Am Telling You...." at wealthy gay men's birthday parties (as well as, Gay Pride events -- without her mostly gay fan base, lord knows where whe'd be right now). A very sad place for someone who should have become a major legend in the business, but whose insecurities and ego and self-destructive impulses ended up driving away most of those who could have helped her over the years (I have too many stories about this that I could share, but won't).

Anyway, "Dreamgirls" will be her greatest legacy. Not bad all in all, considering it's one of the greatest shows of the past 30 years and she was a crucial reason for its success. If you want more info on the show (I can't type anymore and need to go to bed) check out the various Bennett bios written over the years (some are out of print, but can be found in good libraries, used bookstores and some online sources). I've linked a website below that has lots of info and photos and sound clips about the show, including all of the casts of the various revivals and notable productions over the years (a good site -- probably 98% accurate).
DREAMGIRLS
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney

Updated On: 10/14/04 at 11:21 PM

#34

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Hi Broadwaystar... :)

"Have I Told You Lately That I Love You?" Do I spot I CAN GET IT FOR YOU WHOLESALE fan in the audience? :)
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#35

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Margo - was there ever a recording made of 'Sing Mahalia, Sing'?
#36

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No, which is criminal. She sang the heck out of over of a dozen Jackson classics. The highlight though was an original song by Richard Smallwood (whose gospel group was featured in the show). It was her Act II showstopper "I've Got Something." Her performance of it topped "And I Am Telling You" and is one of the three or four greatest vocal perfomances I've seen/heard -- ever. It began with a gorgeous melody that Holliday sang very simply and sweetly (it was a lament -- in an echo of Dreamgirls, her husband has just left her and she sings the song standing alone in her kitchen). She gradually built her intensity verse by verse, until by the last verse you wondered if her voice would burst apart at the seems. But no, she turned it up even another notch and at the song's climax, did this absolutely impossible glissando -- a gradual slide up the scale that began at the bottom of her range and ascended up a full three octaves, increasing power as all the way to the top note which she held for another three measures. As the audience lept to its feet, she lifted the kitchen chair she had been gripping onto since the first verse, hurled it across the stage and let out this growl/scream note (with full tight vibrato -- I can't really describe it) and held it for another two measures. I nearly fainted. The audience gave her a five minute standing ovation.
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney
#38

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It was announced a few years ago that there would be a special CD re-release of the OBCR that would include bonus tracks (not sure if those were going to be alternate takes of the songs already on the album, or other songs altogether), but it never came out. Not sure what happened to it or what the status of it is.
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney
#39

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Anyone know Cleavant Derricks? Someone should ask him if the entire score was recorded.

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