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#1

Debbie Allen Sweet Charity Recording

Are those the orchestrations used for that production? "I'm the Bravest Individual" and "Where Am I Going?" feel a little too Motown. Did they alter thse for the recording?

Updated On: 11/15/09 at 03:04 PM

#2

re: Debbie Allen Sweet Charity Recording

Not for the recording but the actual production.

Remember, this 1986 Broadway revival (which was a recreation of the original 1966 Broadway production) WAS directed and choreographed by Bob Fosse, so all changes or modifications to the revival were approved by him... including using the film-version of the title song "Sweet Charity" (replacing the original 1966 Broadway production's melody), and the modernized re-orchestration of "Where Am I Going?" and the 'new' melody for "I'm the Bravest Individual".

As was the case in the original 1966 Broadway production: Helen Gallagher who played Nickie was Gwen Verdon's standby -- Bebe Neuwirth, who played Nickie in the 1986 revival was Debbie Allen's standby.

#3

re: Debbie Allen Sweet Charity Recording

Those orchestrations are horrible.

At theast they didn't massacre Rhythm of Life like the Applegate revival did.
#4

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I honestly prefer the Allen orchestrations to the Verdon/Applegate. They're peppier and more exciting. Are those available for licensing?
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#5

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The album is alright, not a great recording. Debbie sounds great, and it's nice to hear a younger Bebe in her breakout role. They've remastered it recently. I have the original copy that was printed as a "soundtrack." The album's orchestrations sound thin and synthesized, they sound fuller on audio recordings of the production.

Updated On: 11/15/09 at 05:51 PM

#7

re: Debbie Allen Sweet Charity Recording

I enjoy this album. Especially Bebe Neuwirth's performance, she's wonderful. Debbie Allen is probably my favorite recorded Charity, but I just wish they had used the original orchestrations in Charity's songs. What I really hate about this recording is the fact they cut "Charity's Soliloquy," my favorite song from the show along with "Baby Dream Your Dream" and "Big Spender."
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
#8

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Did DRG do any remastering for the reissue?

I'm still waiting for the to release the French Cast they promised way back.
#9

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Not having heard the original release, I can't compare, but to me it sounds great.
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#10

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I'm sure Debbie Allen was a killer Charity, but I would have love to seen Bebe Neuwirth do that role.
Some people paint, some people sew, I meddle.
#11

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While I admit to finding the original Verdon recording close to cast album perfection, I agree with those who think this is a valid recording.

I'm not really sold on the new version of Where Am I Going but otherwise I really like Fosse/Coleman's changes--I'm the Bravest Individual is a better song (some critics I remember claimed it was a modern rap version--which just makes one realize how clueless about contemporary music many theatre critics are), I used to prefer the stage version of the title song in the original but actually have started to prefer the movie version used here, and I like the other changes (I always miss her Soliloquy though). Isn't it interesting that you get a complete Rich Man's Frug if you combine this cast album with the CD remaster of the OBCR (which added a part left off the original release).

Like I said, I really miss the Soliloquy, but it was cut long before the revival--Gwen stopped performing it a few months into the original run.

I also find it interesting to see how Fosse basically reconstructed his original masterful production/staging but updated and changed some elements--the same year Hal Prince did the same with HIS 60s masterpiece Cabaret. In both cases I think the changes were largely for the better (even if both revivals were somewhat flops). Of course Cabaret is a show that can live without Prince, I don't think Charity can live without Fosse.

Updated On: 11/16/09 at 11:51 PM

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