Despite mediocre Reviews will "Curtains" have a Tony Chance?!
Despite mediocre Reviews will "Curtains" have a Tony Chance?!
#1Despite mediocre Reviews will "Curtains" have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 1:23pmI was just watching The "Broadway Beat" and I cant seem why it got such bland reviews. Yes there is almost an ON AND ON AND ON talking bit here and there but the music is so addicting. I think there could have been more songs too but the story and the acting is almost ,dare I say, perfect. I hope Curtains at least becomes nominated for a few Tony's....especially Best Musical...That is my opinion what are yours?
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BDavis0092
Broadway Star Joined: 7/24/06
#2re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 1:26pmIt will get nominated. Don't you worry. But I don't believe it will win "Best Musical".
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#2re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 1:31pm
It got mediocre reviews, which is better than certain other shows have had. Plus it's getting pretty darn good reactions from audiences. Nomination? Definitely. A win? Well... let's be honest, I think it *could* win Best Musical. As an outside possibility. I don't think it *is* the best musical, but then, that didn't exactly stop Spamalot, did it? I doubt it will take Best Musical, but I'm not exactly going to bleed out of my rectum in shock if it does. 
#3re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 1:32pmI think the only Tony it has any shot at winning is Best Leading Actor.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#4re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 1:33pm
Bad reviews doesn't mean it won't be nominated/win.
Good reviews doesn't mean it will be nominated/win.
The five ways to predict if a show will win:
Politics. Politics. Politics. Art. Politics.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
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#5re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 1:38pm
Curtains is a definitive lock for Best Musical nomination.
Updated On: 4/7/07 at 01:38 PM
neddyfrank2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/05
#6re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 2:54pmI had a dream last night Spring Awakening won Best Musical.
#7re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 2:55pmIt will definitely be nominated, and I think it will win if Legally Blonde isn't nominated. It will sell well on the road.
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
#8re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 3:00pmDebra Monk gives the BEST performance on Broadway right now. Anyone who disagrees with me is just stupid.
What great ones do the less will prattle of
whatever2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/25/06
#9re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 3:03pm
capnhook: i think you over-estimate the role art plays in the tony decision process ...
=:o
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neddyfrank2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/05
#10re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 3:04pmI doubt that Legally Blonde will win...not this year
#11re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 3:05pmIf Legally Blonde is nominated, it will win. It would make millions on the road. That's why it would win.
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
neddyfrank2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/05
#12re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 3:07pm
Curtains will make more on the road.
Edit: Legally Blonde does not need the Tony win to give it a finacial boost, the title of the show is enough to do that. It could use it but it would still make the same amount of money on the road. Just look at WICKED it IS making millions on the roads and it didn't win the TONY. The Tonys haven't lost all integrity.
Updated On: 4/7/07 at 03:07 PM
LuPonatic
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/12/06
#13re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 3:42pmYES, PLEASE!
#14re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 3:44pmYes, Wicked didn't win the Tony. Avenue Q did because it went on a huge campaign, and it pormised both a tour and a Las Vegas production. If they hadn't done this, I think Wicked would've won.
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
#15re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 3:51pmTo say that Debra Monk is giving the best performance of Broadway is a joke. I certainly prefer Ebersole, Wilson, and many other actors and actresses that I won't list. Her material is not even good. The song "It's a business" repeats that quote about a 20 times and that's the chorus for that song. I dare to say its Kander & Ebb's worst.
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BDavis0092
Broadway Star Joined: 7/24/06
#17re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 3:57pm
I don't think art is considered anymore.
It's more like politics, politics, politics, politics, and politics.
www.youtube.com/BwayNY225
neddyfrank2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/05
#18re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 4:04pmYou realize that only about 20-30% of the voters are the "tour voters" so they can't make a show win.
#19re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 5:14pmmuscle, BigFatBlonde is a joke. Don't take it seriously.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#20re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 5:26pmThe last musical by Kander and Ebb nostalgia. I think some of us may underestimate it.
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#21re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 5:29pmExcept those in the biz know it's not the "last" K&E musical. And, like I've said before, it's not like Ebb died recently - this isn't a Jonathan Larsen situation. It's been a few years now.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#22re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 5:56pmI don't anticipate CURTAINS doing as well as some predict on the road. Yes, the producers keep shoving "A Great Big New Musical Comedy" into the faces of anyone who comes near it, but I see two other musicals with much more touring potential. CURTAINS would last a nice year on the road. LEGALLY BLONDE would last longer. And if LEGALLY BLONDE is not nominated, SPRING AWAKENING's cast recording has been near the top of the Cast Album Billboard Chart since it was released. Tons of teens out there are listening to this music and will want to see the show over and over on the road, similar to the way RENT is *still* popular on the road 10 years into its run. I don't see CURTAINS' cast recording having even close to the same popularity once its released. Like I said, I think this show would last one nice year on the road, then be put to rest. Hyde Pierce will have left the Broadway production by this point, the numbers will drop, the show will close, and it will be history.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Updated On: 4/7/07 at 05:56 PM
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Roger246
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#23re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 6:02pmI think it will be nominated for best musical but Grey Gardens or Spring Awakening will most likely win.
#24re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 6:08pm
The Curtains reviews were equal to or better than the original reviews for Chicago. However you examine the critical response, all but the most negative couple of reviews had good things to say about multiple facets of the production, and the favorable reviews were enthusiastic and far from the minority.
We may be expecting smash or pan collections of reviews, but Curatins received an assortment of critiques that many highly successful shows have garnered.
#25re: Despite mediocre Reviews will 'Curtains' have a Tony Chance?!
Posted: 4/7/07 at 6:52pm
Love Debra Monk, but she's not even the best thing on the Hirschfeld stage. Yeah, I know BigFatBlonde's a joke, still wanted to put that out there. ^_^
I don't know how long 'Curtains' could last on the road, but as I was watching it, I remember thinking "holy crap, this would be AWESOME to do!". Give it some years, unleash the amateur rights, and watch theatre nerds in dramatic societies across the nations pounce.
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