Dreamgirls Appreciation Thread
Posted: 9/1/04 at 1:50pm
Posted: 9/1/04 at 1:50pm
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DREAMGIRLS pointed the way to the future. And we have not listened.
Posted: 9/1/04 at 2:11pm
This show is AMAZING!
Posted: 9/1/04 at 2:22pm
And Jennifer Holliday will always remain my original Broadway Star. I had the priveldge to see her by complete accident in Chicago a few years ago and hearing her sing live was one of the most thrilling theatrical experiences of my life.
THE most thrilling theatrical experience of my life would have to be finally being able to see her play Effie in Dreamgirls when she revived her original part in Atlanta at the Fox Theatre.
I've always know that the OBCR was less than faithful in perserving the show's complete score but had no idea how much until I saw that production. I have since bought the Actor's Fund Concert CD and it is rarely far from my CD caddy. Another bizarre stroke of luck is that the AF concert's Curtis was none other than Norm Lewis, the very man I saw play Curtis regionally, so now I also have a recording of him singing the role as well.
If I have any regrets about this show, it's that I was not able to see the original production but I wasn't even a fetus back then. In fact, Dreamgirls is also very important to me because not long after my dad took my mom out on a date to see it, he proposed to her.
My only other regret about this show is that I will sadly never be cast in it unless a production needs an extra Sweetheart for Dave.
Updated On: 9/1/04 at 02:22 PM
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Posted: 9/1/04 at 2:35pm
I saw Dreamgirls something like 8 or 9 times -- 5 times on Broadway including the OBC, and various road tours afterwards. Bennett's was the single greatest piece of staging I've ever encountered -- a masterclass in direction. Robin Wagner's, Tharon Musser's and Theoni V. Aldredge's designs were all brilliant and the original cast was one of the finest ever assembled. The book is a marvel of economy and the score, always underrated, was one of the most successful fusings of pop, rock, r&b and even rap that ever occurred within a Broadway context ("And I Am Telling You" spent 4 weeks at number one on the Billboard R&B chart and several weeks in the Top 40 of the Pop charts, peaking at #24 -- the only non-cover single taken directly from a Broadway cast album to hit number one on ANY Billboard Chart in the last three decades).
The show is a landmark in the history of the American Theatre -- hopefully it'll make it back to Broadway in the very near future.
Posted: 9/1/04 at 2:38pm
i'm 34 now so i was around 12 when i saw dreamgirls for the first time.
Posted: 9/1/04 at 2:41pm
What happened to Arnetia Walker and Alisa Gyse (who played Lorelle and Deena in the revival)?
I've heard some great things about them, and just wanna know what theyve been up to...apparently not performing on Bway.
Posted: 9/1/04 at 2:47pm
Arnetia (one of my favorite Lorells) is in LA, I believe. Wasn't she on a sitcom not long ago?
Posted: 9/1/04 at 2:50pm

The late great Michael Bennett during "Dreamgirls" rehearsals with his two leading ladies: Jennifer Holliday (Effie) and Sheryl Lee Ralph (Deena).
Posted: 9/1/04 at 2:54pm
Posted: 9/1/04 at 2:57pm
As far as "Deenas" go Sheryl Lee Ralph was awesome...I fell in love with this woman! Alisa Gyse was good but I didn't care for Linda Leilani Brown, who looked very much like the singer "Deena" is based on but vocally left alot to be desired.
Ben Harney outstanding as Curtis Taylor, Jr. with Weyman Thompson and Norm Lewis coming in second and third in my book
Loretta Devine was hilarious as Lorell full of sass and warmth...truly talented woman. Arnetia Walker was great in this role as well.
Cleavant Derricks literally tore down the house as James Thunder Early and although many have tried no one has come even close to touching him in this role.
Posted: 9/1/04 at 3:00pm
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Posted: 9/1/04 at 3:10pm
Rich was the one critic who recognized the innovations in staging, direction, design and performance in Dreamgirls, and how the show was a spiritual cousin to Gypsy, and Jerome Robbins' legendary staging of that landmark musical. Everyone else, almost to a man, blasted Dreamgirls as all style and no substance, and criticized the score as Motown pastiche, with save for a moment or two, it's not.
Rich's unwavering support of Dreamgirls may have backfired when the show lost the 1982 Tony for Best Musical to the interesting, sumptuous, but to me, less satisfying Nine.
Dreamgirls got the last laugh, however, running almost twice as long as Nine.
The 1987 national tour/revival, which played the Ambassador, featured less bells and whistles, and Bennett correctly predicted to the authors that their work would be better received that time around. Of course, nearly every critic did a reversal, finally catching up on what Rich had been saying all along.
Posted: 9/1/04 at 3:23pm
Harney was a great Curtis as was Vondie Curtis Hall, but I think Norm Lewis sings it better than Harney or anyone else.
Derricks was also nearly definitive as Jimmy Early. His twin brother Clinton Derricks-Carroll (he was adopted by Vinnette Carroll..... long story) was nearly as good (same look and voice, but a little less passion). David Alan Grier of "In Living Color" fame was also terrific -- very funny as you can imagine with a nice voice. Herbert Rawlings, Jr was also quite good.
Loretta Devine handled Lorrell's high belt probably better than anyone and was a great comedienne. Arnetia Walker oozed sex in the role and had big brassy voice (as did her sister Fuchsia). Terry Burrell was very funny and vocally at sea.
I don't think there is a definitive Deena. Sheryl Lee Ralph was very good, as were Debbie Burrell and LaChanze.
Posted: 9/1/04 at 3:57pm
The Fox Theatre Cast:
Effie- Jennifer Holliday
Deena- Alisa Gyse
Curtis- Norm Lewis
Jimmy- Eugene Fleming
Marty- James Stovall
Lorrell- Ramona Keller
CC- Joe Wilson Jr
Michelle- Ginai (also a Stepp Sister)
Edna/ Effie U/S- Sondra M. Bonitto
The Stepp Sisters- Tracee Beazer, April Nixon & Nikki Renee Daniels
Charlene- Conisha Wade
Joanne- Tanesha Gary-Stickney
Little Albert & The Tru Tones- Terrence McKinnley Clowe, Ivory McKay, Parnell Damone, Rick Delancy, Andravy, Martin Thorton
Tiny Joe Dixon- Richard E. Waits
Dave- Paul Castree
Sweethearts- Stacey Harris & Manoly Farell
The M.C.- Gil Pritchett
Posted: 9/1/04 at 4:04pm
Updated On: 9/1/04 at 04:04 PM
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