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FOLLIES at Paper Mill

Does anybody remember the wonderful revival of FOLLIES at Paper Mill Playhouse. I was the musical director and what a cast we had. Ann Miller, Donna McKechnie, Dee Hoty, Tony Roberts, Kaye Ballard, Liliane Montevecchi, Eddie Bracken, Donald Saddler, Laurence Guittard, Phyllis Newman. Great review from The New York Times. That is the revival that should have gone to Broadway. Every night after Ann Miller sang "I'm Still Here" there was a standing ovation. It was a stunningly beautiful production, and I am not just saying that because I was invovled in it. Jerry Mitchell choreographed. Excellent! Any thoughts?
BatonMan
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How thrilling to work with such a collection of talent. I used to share a house with Natalie Mosco when she lived in Australia! (She went into real estate after she did FOLLIES and the first house she sold was to Donna McKechnie. Smart kid!)
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I love the recording of this revival. The singing is so great, and the inclusion of all the alternative songs makes it truly definitive (yes, I know the concert recording is great, but the fact that its live makes some of the singing a little sloppy, and I guess I am a perfectionist). The Paper Mill recording also made me a fan of many of the new songs added for the London production, so I was incredibly disappointed when Roundabout's revival used the original score.
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Natalie Mosco was a joy to work with, and the tango that she did with Donald Sadler was thrilling. The whole experience was blessed from start to finish. Stephen Sondheim came to rehearsals once a week to keep is on our toes. There is a bootleg video out there somewhere, which I hear isn't bad. Thank you for responding.
BatonMan
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Well, you did a stunning job on FOLLIES. I agree that this was the one to go to Broadway. I couldn't get tickets to your production, but did see the disappointing Roundabout version (none of the leads could sing!). The Papermill recording is fantastic and you should be very proud of it. Its one of my favorite scores and I hope I can sing it one day.
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Yes, I was there with a friend, and it was a wonderful evening. Loved the "Sally in a Surrealist Painting" staging of "Losing My Mind" and, yes, when Annie finished "I'm Still Here," pandemonium struck the hall. She was a stunning vision in a form-fitting blue sequined gown, and belted (and acted) the song out of the theatre. Congrats on being part of a legendary production, by the way!
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Thanks for the kind words. I did 23 shows at Paper Mill between 1981 and 2000, and it definitely was the high point. Other great productions were NINE, CANDIDE, BRIGADOON, and THE MERRY WIDOW with Judy Kaye.
BatonMan
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Ann Miller had a depth of feeling in "I'm Still Here" that really made me listen to it with new ears. As Brantley mentioned, she tapped into the wounded, wandering core of that song, while giving it all of the show-biz punch it usually has. There were wonderful performances all around, but Donna McKechnie's was the other performance that really sailed for me as well. In particular, I couldn't keep my eyes off of her, kicking up her heels in "Who's That Woman?" where she was dancing the recreated choreography of her one-time husband, Michael Bennett. At that point, the resonance of role and performer just started to rattle around in my head the way I'm sure the original audiences at Follies felt about seeing Ethel Shutta, Fifi D'Orsay or Alexis Smith.

I agree it should have been the Follies that went to Broadway. But alas...
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Chase Mishkin and Roger Berlind were raising money and then James Goldman's wife got into the fray and it all went belly-up. We were all devastated. In this business how often do you get to do something that is so special and artistically fulfilling? Not that often. The word of mouth was unbelievable and it looked like it was going to happen, then one day we heard that it was dead in the water. We all would have liked to know what went on behind those closed doors! It is really nice to hear everyone's memories of FOLLIES. Thank you all....
BatonMan
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I love listening to the cd of FOLLIES done at Paper Mill only for Ann Miller's rendition of I'm Still Here.

Kaye Ballard says in her recently published memoir that Sondheim DID NOT want this production transferring to Broadway because he thought it was not "first rate."

The casting seems to be almost ideal (we can all live without Tony Roberts) but I did not see the show at Paper Mill and only have the cd to go by.

SONDheim was apparently not pleased with the production, at least according to Kaye Ballard who played Hattie. Ms. Ballard says this is why the production went no further.

You can read more about this and her new book where she talks about it by going to www.kayeballard.com


"Blow out the candles Robert and make a wish. Want something, want SOMETHING."

Updated On: 2/15/05 at 02:48 PM

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The Paper Mill production should have come to Broadway. The 2001 revival at the Belasco had a few moments, but it was underwhelming overall. I loved the production when I first saw it and still listen to the cast album.
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Magruder wrote:

'she tapped into the wounded, wandering core of that song'

Anybody else see the unintended pun?
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I'd be very surprised to learn that Sondheim-a legendary perfectionist with very high standars for productions of his work-would dislike the wonderful Paper Mill production but like the undercooked Broadway incarnation.
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i feel that i'm going to be putting my head on the chopping block here, but am i the only one who was underwhelmed by Ann Miller's rendition of I'm Still Here? Granted, I didnt see the PMP production but have the CD and listen to it frequently, and while there's nothing wrong with her rendition, It's far from my favorite. I'm gonna go with Carol Burnett's verison on the concert CD every time, then Delores Gray's on the London recording...However, Donna McKechnie & Dee Hoty are more than brilliant. Donna's "In Buddy's Eyes" & "Losing My Mind" are to die for, and I'm sorry I dont know the names, but the ladies who play Heidi & Young Heidi are exquisite on "One More Kiss."


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MelissaEriccofan?--

"I'd be very surprised to learn that Sondheim-a legendary perfectionist with very high standars for productions of his work-would dislike the wonderful Paper Mill production but like the undercooked Broadway incarnation."

How do you know that Sondheim liked the recent Broadway revival of FOLLIES?

Additionally, sorry, but I have read 90 percent of every book written about the divine Stephen and I have NEVER heard him referred to as a perfectionist. As a matter of fact, he is more often described as "lazy," and "more interested in smoking joints than working,"-- with his collaborators often literally having to coax him to speed his writing. The man is a genius and he has given me great joy in my life and I love him very dearly..
However, You are the first person I have ever heard refer to Sondheim as a "perfectionist."

Perhaps if he were a perfectionist, some of his shows might have "healthier" runs and he might do some more works that at least do not CONTINUE to lose money.

Again, I love Stephen, but the facts are there........his shows nor their revivals tend to have runs worthy of who is probably one of the three greatest composers musical theater has ever known.

As for Sondheim thinking the Paper Mill production was not first rate, THAT quote is from Kaye Ballard who was in the show. She talks about it in her new book. Perhaps Ms. Ballard is wrong in what she wrote in her book. She is wonderful but is indeed getting on in years. I wish I could have seen the Paper Mill production.


"Blow out the candles Robert and make a wish. Want something, want SOMETHING."

Updated On: 2/15/05 at 03:24 PM

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I think Ms. Ballard is mistaken. Jim Coleman's version of the story has been confirmed many times by several "insiders" over the years. Bobby Goldman, widow of Jim Goldman, was the one who put the kibbosh on the Papermill transfer. Sondheim apparently liked it very much, but (as anyone who knows him will confirm) he HATES confrontation and Ms. Goldman is the sort of dominant personality type that he especially avoids. She was adamant about it not transferring and Sondheim refused to stand up to her, so the project was a no-go.

As for "I'm Still Here," I've always thought Burnett was far and away the weak link on the Concert recording and gives one of the weakest renditions -- vocally and interpretationally -- of the song I've heard. I'd take every other version over hers -- Yvonne deCarlo, Nancy Walker, Dolores Gray, Ann Miller, Polly Bergen, Elaine Stritch, et al.
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Updated On: 2/15/05 at 03:36 PM

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Sondheim is a brilliant composer and a terrific man. There was nothing malicious about my post. There is nothing wrong with being a perfectionist.
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Didn't know what "Follies" was in 1998 (only a high school freshman at the time who'd never even heard of Sondheim), but I wish I did and could have seen that production. The Paper Mill cast album is complete and beautifully recorded (and how nice to have Jonathan Tunick conducting his own orchestrations). It would have been really special to see Ann Miller on Broadway once more. Shame she's gone.

By the way, lazy perfectionists do exist, surprisingly. I'm one of them myself.

~K

Updated On: 2/15/05 at 03:51 PM

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Margo, you are two hundred percent right about Burnett's I'M STILL HERE. I found it a tad embarassing for her actually.

Wouldn't it be exciting to hear Liza perform the song someday?

Anyway, I have read a couple of different times that "those who have seen and heard them all," think that Nancy Walker's rendition of I'M STILL HERE was the best there ever was.


"Blow out the candles Robert and make a wish. Want something, want SOMETHING."
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Melissa Errico Fan,

Of course there was nothing remotely malicious about your post. You simply stated that Mr. Sondheim is a perfectionist, which to most folks is AN EXTRAORDINARY COMPLIMENT. Most books about Sondheim however, DO NOT describe our beloved genius as a perfectionist. They say he is many things, of course, but "perfectionist" is not a word biographers tend to use for the brilliant Stephen.
"Blow out the candles Robert and make a wish. Want something, want SOMETHING."
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I don't actually think that I have ever read a biography on Sondheim, but I'll take your word for it. Perfectionist was just the word that came into my head. He is known for having high standards, and, as we've said, there is nothing wrong with that. Not having high standards can lead to some pretty crappy productions, and who wants that?

I love Dorothy Loudon's version of "I'm Still Here" on THE STEPHEN SONDHEIM ALBUM.
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I have not read Kaye Ballard's new book yet, although I do plan to. I love Kaye dearly, but she is incorrect about Stephen not thinking the Paper Mill production was not good enough. He was very supportive and saw it about 9 times. Would you go and see something that you created nine times if you didn't like it?
I am sorry everbody who loves the show could not have seen it. There were a few book changes that made it more cohesive, and it was handled with great love and care. We all had a sense that we were doing something very special, and a lot of that came from Stephen Sondheim himself guiding us with his tremendous input. He could not have been nicer or more supportive. This was the second time that I had worked with him, the first time being the first national company of SWEENEY TODD with Angela Lansbury and George Hearn, and both experiences with him were thrilling and I can't tell you how much I learned from that great mind. I will treasure those experiences always.
BatonMan
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Sondheim was also the executive producer for the Paper Mill recording, so he couldn't have been that unhappy with the production.

I also think Ballard is mistaken. The issue with Follies is that Bobby Goldman, on behalf of her (late) husband, has the controlling interest in all first class productions of the show. Sondheim has surprisingly little say over first class rights for that show, and as the title was promised to the Roundabout for their revival, he didn't want to fight her.
"Gif me the cobra jool!"

Updated On: 2/15/05 at 07:04 PM

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Thank you, Magruder, you are definitely on the right track. Mrs. Goldman is a piece of work.
BatonMan
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Is she still associated with Paper Mill?
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