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#51

re: FOLLIES at Paper Mill

Hey Magruder--what do you think? Should we write the book?--lol. It would truly be fascinating.
BatonMan
#52

re: FOLLIES at Paper Mill

Just as soon as I finish my book on Prettybelle.
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#53

re: FOLLIES at Paper Mill

I will buy that one. Angela Lansbury told me stories about that one. I love the score, though.
BatonMan
#54

re: FOLLIES at Paper Mill

i have the paper mill cast recording and it's my favorite follies recording there is!
#55

re: FOLLIES at Paper Mill

To anyone who saw the Mackintosh London FOLLIES...

HOW do they get out of Loveland?

In the orig prod Ben has a breakdown and Loveland come crashing down around him. On the London Cd set, the new number (Make the Most of Your Music) finishes with a flourish. Was the ending created for the recording the way an ending ws tacked onto "The Right Girl" on the Capitol OBC? Or did Ben not have breakdown in the London FOLLIES?

As for my favourite FOLLIES recording, I like them all except the London cast. The 1971 disc has those historic performances but the many trims and deletions. The 1985 concert generated such excitement and gave us FOLLIES freaks our first chance to hear much of the music cut from the OCR. The PMP set with all the bonus tracks is the most complete. But the London cast fails for me. No Overture or prologue, the running order mucked about with and it is two not-very-full Cd's making it a very expensive set.

Cast albums are NOT "soundtracks."
Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!

I host a weekly one-hour radio program featuring cast album selections as well as songs by cabaret, jazz and theatre artists. The program, FRONT ROW CENTRE is heard Sundays 9 to 10 am and also Saturdays from 8 to 9 am (eastern times) on www.proudfm.com

#56

KAYE BALLARD WAS RIGHT!!!

Although the lion's share of blame blocking the transfer of Paper Mill's Follies to Broadway belong to Mrs. Goldman, Stephen Sondhem joined that bandwagon. I understand from someone "intimately close" to him that although he enjoyed the production, Mr. Sondheim believed there were so many bad feelings in the theater community concerning the director that the show would never stand a chance with the critics, that it would suffer the same fate as Gentlemen Prefer Blonds (It's great there but not for Broadway). Also, the production, as it stood in New Jersey, would have cost a fortune to mount on Broadway.

Bobbie Goldman had her hand in a lot of things with that production, from casting to design, and would preface all her objections with "Stephen doesn't like her" or "Stephen hates that idea". It wasn't until he began sending his own thoughts to the creatives that they realized Mrs. Goldman's scheme.

Paper Mill never negotiated for the first class rights to that production. Others believe she (Mrs. Goldman) had already promised the show to Roundabout to open their new season, thinking that some small hick regional theater would never pose a threat to her empire.

Unfortunately, Sondheim's legacy is now marred with the Follies revival (which I didn't think was all that bad...but I liked the production in New Jersey better!). The Paper Mill recording, although complete, doesn't come close to the actual performance. Too bad.
#57

KAYE BALLARD WAS RIGHT!!!

GENTLEMEN PREFER BLONDES did not play the Paper Mill. It transfered from Goodspeed. Although, some of the critics are not fond of the director, Robert Johanson, this was his best work and Ben Brantley was in our pocket. I know Stephen Sondheim pretty well and he never said those things about Robert to me. Mrs. Goldman had nothing to do with casting the show. I was there the whole time and she wasn't. The only cast member that Sondheim didn't want was Liliane Montevecchi, and that was because she never learned the music for the concert at Lincoln Center. She got the part at Paper Mill because there was no other star that was right for it. Chase Mishkin and Roger Berlind had most of the money raised. It really angers me that everybody thinks they know what happened and they weren't even involved in the production. I was there through the whole wonderful experience. Everyone is definitely entitled to their opinion, but opinions is all the are. I have done 22 shows at the Paper Mill from 1982 through 2000, so I definitely had an inside track on what was going on. It was a very controversial time and Mrs. Goldman was definitely the villain. It's hard to believe that she would have so much power. I have never been involved with anything other than SWEENEY TODD that audiences reacted to so passionately as the production of FOLLIES at the Paper Mill.
BatonMan

Updated On: 3/10/05 at 07:07 PM

#58

KAYE BALLARD WAS RIGHT!!!

I remember WISHING I was able to see it, and how much the Roundabout's revival SUCKED. Too bad your production didn't make it to Broadway instead!
#59

KAYE BALLARD WAS RIGHT!!!

As usual, Margo, you are right in your assessment of Burnett's inadequate rendition of "I'm Still Here."
It happened almost twenty years ago, but I can still remember how electrified my friends and I were while in the audience at FOLLIES IN CONCERT.
While everyone else in the production was at a career peak, especially Barbara Cook, Lee Remick, and Elaine Stritch, Burnett's lackluster performance made one wish that Stritch had done the song instead of her.
I suspect that those performing at Sondheim's 75th celebration will be the most exciting group on one stage since the legendary concert version of FOLLIES in 1985.
Here's hoping there will be a DVD release of this sure to be once in a lifetime event.
#60

KAYE BALLARD WAS RIGHT!!!

Sorry for the confusion concerning Gentlemen Prefer Blonds. I never said it had played at Paper Mill, rather, some were afraid that Follies would suffer the same fate as Blonds.

Regarding Mrs. Goldman's involvement in casting, you couldn't be more wrong. Names were submitted to Mrs. Goldman for approval before auditions could be scheduled. I didn't want to mention Lilianne Montevecchi because I think she's such a terrific talent but no, Sondheim wasn't a fan of hers. She went up during the Lincoln Center concert and he never got over it.

Yes, it is true that money was raised for the transfer, but not for the running of the show. The running of a production that size, with that many "stars" would have run into the millions. Keep in mind that with all the money in the world, without the first class rights, when the show closed, the show closed. I, too, believe it was a terrific show BUT I also think much of that goes to the chroeographer, Jerry Mitchell. Robert had a lot of "off the wall" ideas during pre-production and it was Jerry Mitchell who really forced him to focus.

I understand that as the conductor you were certainly involved in the production, but I also understand that you were not on staff and, as a result, were not truly privy to everything that went on prior to rehearsals NOR after the production had closed. Sorry.
#61

KAYE BALLARD WAS RIGHT!!!

Sorry, but how do you know what I know and what I dont? I happen to be very close with a lot of people at the Paper Mill and was the resident conductor for a few years. You also don't know Robert Johanson very well, because, if you did, you would know that no one tells Robert what to do. I have done 20 shows with Robert and no one knows him professionally better than I do, and he did his finest work on this show. Jerry Mitchell did a fabulous job, and is a great guy to work with, but directorally what was on that stage was all Robert's.
BatonMan

Updated On: 3/11/05 at 10:59 PM

#63

KAYE BALLARD WAS RIGHT!!!

my point is made, we need a book about this production! i still need to read that PETER PAN title book about Johansan, too. MAGRUDER, it's funny you mention PRETTYBELLE, and it might have been intentional---as that show as out of town at the same time as the original FOLLIES, and in the same city, so it is a fairly large part of EVERYTHING WAS POSSIBLE. What's great about EVERYTHING WAS POSSIBLE, aside from the stars-in-rehearsal and creative-team-in-the-midst-of-collaboration (which it would share with a book about the PaperMill FOLLIES), is how clearly Chapin was able to get across the economics of the business at that point in time. Those who have worked at two of the biggest regional theatres with Broadway transfer potential, Goodspeed and PaperMill, would do well to give the genre a document that also touched on those topics. The face-off of COLEMAN and MME. ROSE suggests that various perceptions exist, but even a flawed document put in writing and reviewed might generate commentary and reaction that get historians in the field closer to the truth. With all the regionals now serving as "out of town" instead of Broadway productions going on the road first under their own steam and renting venues, the context of the changing practices would be particularly valuable. Truly innovative attempts at new musical theatre (as opposed to commercial tries at "sure bets" like jukebox musicals and West End transfers) now come through the regionals even more---as the "preview" period for NYC shows often occur without any out of town process. Thanks for considering such a pivotal book.
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#64

KAYE BALLARD WAS RIGHT!!!

There should be a book. I didn't mean to sound so hateful, but I hate to have my integrity questioned. After all, that is all that we have in this business. I hold no animosity to anyone, and I am sorry mme. rose 2. I just know what I know. Who knows, there are probably truths on both sides. The book on Robert Johanson is a hoot. Everybody who was on staff at the PaperMill at the time are in the book. The book was written by a former best friend of Robert.
BatonMan

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