Fiona's transformation - Shrek the Musical
stage_star
Chorus Member Joined: 5/3/14
#1Fiona's transformation - Shrek the Musical
Posted: 8/5/14 at 12:11am
Probably already discussed here, but I couldn't find (nor could I find a straight answer on Google). Could anyone explain to me how all of three Fiona's transformation from human to ogre happen?
(and the reverse as well, even though the only time that needs explanation is her second one)
AEA AGMA SM
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/13/09
#2Fiona's transformation - Shrek the Musical
Posted: 8/5/14 at 12:39am
Simple answer, doubles and use of lighting (dim) and staging (scenes played further upstage, behind scrims, etc) to hide it.
The video is deceptive because they re-filmed many of those scenes with Sutton in an empty theatre so they could insert close up shots at times it would have been one of the doubles during an actual performance.
broadwayguy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/18/03
#3Fiona's transformation - Shrek the Musical
Posted: 8/5/14 at 1:24am
Exactly.
In the second transformation, Fiona runs off and is replaced by a body double while Surron's change happens... Green face paint, fake nose, wig with ears, new dress with green chest attached and green gloves.. Then there is a brief black out and Sutton comes back on.
Truth be told, it was a very effective transformation... My one issue was that the ogre make up for Fiona was vastly sifferent than that for Shrek. I understand te time to get into make up was vastly different, but there were simple rixes to line the two designs up... The creative team opted instead to use theatrical make up for Fiona and film make up for Shrek.
#4Fiona's transformation - Shrek the Musical
Posted: 8/5/14 at 11:07pm
there was a youtube video that made it pretty clear while the show was still on Broadway, but I imagine it is long gone
She tries to run off and gets pushed back by guards or something and keeps her back to the audience. Either Sutton said her lines from off stage or it was pre-recorded, but at the blackout they switched back she was lifted up and spun to reveal her as an ogress. once she was lowered down doors in the alter opened and the cables were undone by people hidden within.
Showface
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/14
#5Fiona's transformation - Shrek the Musical
Posted: 8/5/14 at 11:09pmVery much like how they handled the transformation for Into the Woods specifically the 2002 revival.
broadwayguy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/18/03
#6Fiona's transformation - Shrek the Musical
Posted: 8/5/14 at 11:36pmAs I recall, there were no wires in the rig.
#7Fiona's transformation - Shrek the Musical
Posted: 8/8/14 at 8:50pm
Check their YouTube Channel
Either Episode 2 or Episode 5 briefly discuss the change I believe
Shrek the Musical YouTube Channel
Broadwaylover123
Swing Joined: 6/20/17
#8Fiona's transformation - Shrek the Musical
Posted: 6/21/17 at 3:41pm
use this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UgSEBC6vIv0 it could help
#9Fiona's transformation - Shrek the Musical
Posted: 6/21/17 at 4:15pm
That video is of the transformation from some community theatre production NOT the Broadway production which is obviously more complex. These poor amateurs thought the airbrushing technique would be quicker when actually painting/sponging her with the green make-up would have been quicker and more efficient.
#10Fiona's transformation - Shrek the Musical
Posted: 12/6/21 at 2:30am
ahahahahah it was interesting to watch this discussion
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