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#26

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 9:07am

I know that Tanz Der Vampire was not a flop but it is the closest you will get to a DOTV CD.

#27

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 9:14am

and there are like 3 different cd's from tanz der vampire

btw. anyone has the "jeeves takes charge" vinyl from andrew lloyd webber? I mean the 70's version, not the remake "by jeeves"

Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!

#28

Wow...I'm shocked
Noone mentioned Anyone Can Whistle or Merrily We Roll Along
These are two of Sondheims best scores, and they ran for 9 and 16 performances respectively.
I have both...and they are BRILLIANT!
I would advise their Immediate purchase.
It did make its money back, and won best musical...but Passion is a very odd musical that deserves a place in the CD cabinet. "I wish I could forget you" haunts me.
Floyd Collins is a great score too, and is a worthy purchase.

#29

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 9:19am

Steel Pier.

Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.

#30

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 9:21am

Most of Sondheim's shows are technically considered flops.

#31

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 10:24am

How about "Dance a little closer" and "Charley and Algernon".
Or "How now Dow Jones" (I did like that score) facing the death of its composer.

#32

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 11:32am

Allegro was a big flop, but the music is pretty good.

Keep the peace, take care of each other, and may you find your promised land. -TJST

#33

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 11:55am

The london production of "Gone With the Wind" has great collectors appeal, if that's what you are going for - but it also is hard to find. The Robber Bridegroom with Barry Bostwick and Rhonda Coulet is good too, and includes a few cuts that were cut from the production.

#34

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 12:00pm

Nick and Nora
Marlene
Jane Eyre
Triumph of Love
Side Show (my personal favorite)

My mother always used to say, "The older you get, the better you get, unless you're a banana." - Rose Nyland

#35

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 12:01pm

Well, there's financial flops, which is about 70-80% of shows, and then there's big stinky flops- shows that run for less than 75 or fewer performances, get absolutely awful reviews, and/or have a truly horrible reputation in the public.

Most Sondheim shows were financial flops, but I think only Merrily and Anyone Can Whistle can really be considered giant stinky failures in any sense.

#36

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 12:07pm

Jerry Herman's "Dear World" based on "The Madwoman of Chaiiot" (SP?) has some really lovely moments.

#37

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 12:48pm

Zombie Prom!!!!!!!!!!

When someone blunders, we say that he makes a misstep. Is it then not clear that all the ills of mankind, all the tragic misfortunes that fill our history books, all the political blunders, all the failures of the great leaders have arisen merely from a lack of skill in dancing. - Moliere

#38

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 12:58pm

Parade

"Judy Garland, Jimmy Dean, You tragedy Queen" ~ Taboo

"Watching a frat boy realize just what he put his d!ck in...ex's getting std's...schadenfruede" ~ Ave Q

"when dangers near, exploit their fear" ~ Reefer Madness the Musical

#39

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 1:32pm

"and then there's big stinky flops- shows that run for less than 75 or fewer performances"
I think shows that have more than 75 performances are still considered "big stinky flops." Taboo had 100 performances and it will go down in history as a famous flop.

#40

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 2:09pm

"Woop-Up" and "Ankles Away" are so cheezy that they are (in a very perverse way) lots of fun.

TWOGAAB "A Class Act" will never die!

#41

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 4:17pm

Working
Is There Life After High School?
Amour
Do Black Patent Leather Shoes Really Reflect Up?
Song of Singapore

These have wonderful scores.

"Singing is the lowest form of communication" - Homer

#42

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 4:22pm

I love
Is there Life After High School?

there are some good flops out there. I still listen to
Best Little Whorehouse Goes Public
Legs Diamond
and
Thou Shalt Not

#43

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 4:45pm

I have Taboo (which is my favorite recording), Working, Anyone Can Whistle, and Parade is somewhere in the mail coming to my house, so that's on the list, too.

I have my books and my poetry to protect me...

#44

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 4:54pm

Merrily We Roll Along is one of my favorite Sondheim scores (well, that and everything else he's written

), and it's also very catchy and listenable.

#45

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 5:38pm

Some of my favorite flop CDs:

Candide
Legs Diamond
Jane Eyre
Seussical
The Wild Party (LaChiusa)
Goldilocks
All American
How Now Dow Jones
Pipe Dream
Allegro
Flower Drum Song (revival)
Skyscraper
Tenderloin
Kwamina
House of Flowers
Anyone Can Whistle
Merrily We Roll Along
The Rothschilds
70, Girls, 70
Flora the Red Menace
The Rink
Rags
Amour
Annie Warbucks
The Best Little Whorehouse Goes Public
Baby
Big
The Baker's Wife
Flahooley
The Beautiful Game
Bajour
Take Me Along
Plain and Fancy
Walking Happy
The Canterbury Tales
Caroline, or Change
Chess
Fifty Million Frenchmen
The Golden Apple
Heathcliff
Metropolis
High Society
It's a Bird...It's a Plane...It's Superman!
Jimmy
Mack and Mabel
The Grand Tour (Jerry Herman)
Martin Guerre
Miss Liberty
Irma La Douce
Nymph Errant
Oh, Brother!
Over Here!
Me and Juliet
Romance/Romance
Sail Away
Sugar
Starmites
Swinging on a Star
Taboo
Top Banana
Wildcat
Windy City
You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown (revival)
Zorba

Limited engagements, not flops:

Parade
Marie Christine

bwaybaby2 - You mentioned almost all Off-Broadway shows, but I'm not sure if they were actually flops. Was Smile released on vinyl?

A little clarification:

Tintypes was a flop.
Avenue Q is a hit, not a flop, whether members like it or not.
Song of Singapore, Salad Days, The Mystery of Edwin Drood were not flops.
New York Rock is a concept recording. Was it ever produced?
Lizzie Borden was a limited run at the American Stage Company and Goodspeed.

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#46

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 9:19pm

hey - u named about 5 of the good flops - good job

#47

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/25/04 at 9:35pm

Once everyone got over the hysterical Rosie publicity, Taboo garnered a lot more respect. Although it didn't win any, it was nominated for 4 Tonys. Don't miss the water til the well runs dry.....

I would absolutely recommend the Taboo CD to anyone. The show may have been a financial flop, a critical flop, and a marketing disaster but the score and musical production are top-notch.

#48

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/28/04 at 7:30pm

no one's mentioned Rodgers and Hammerstein's Pipedream or Sodheim's Bounce, which didn't even get to b-way but has a CD anyway

~ "No, I don't want to hurt you... I only want to KILL!!!!" -Bat Boy

#49

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/28/04 at 7:37pm

Chess (Bway) and it sucks. The orchestra sounds like tin, Phillip Casnoff (Freddie) can't hit the notes, David Carroll's voice sounds pinched the chorus blows!

I LOVE Chess and this is just the WORST!

#50

re: Flop CD's

Posted: 8/28/04 at 8:04pm

i dont know if all of these are flops, but they are at least unknown:

bat boy
elegies
infinite joy (its not really a show, but its william finn stuff, its amazing anyway)
the last session (not a flop, just never been to ny)
john and jen
parade
last 5 years
side show
violet
smile (i just did the show, the score is okay...very campy)

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