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there really hasn't been much anti-Guarini outcry at all. this might be because he's not really a celebrity outside of American Idol and that awful movie with Kelly. but i think the main reason is simply that it's a BEACH BOYS MUSICAL! the beach boys are great in their context, but it seems like the theatre community as a whole is receiving this musical with a collective eye roll and sigh.

generally people will complain about stunt casting when it is with a pre-existing show that is respected and deserves better talent. with Good Vibrations, if the expectations are low for the show itself, no one will stop to question whether Guarini will "do the role justice". his presence just gives more people a reason to roll their eyes and sigh.

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well...i don't think there is much anti guarini, but i do think some fans seem to have a real issue with these blockbuster musicals to the masses! lol...

so we got Momma mia, movin out, hair spray, lion king and not sure what others!

so u are talking about many musicals and i guess i don't get why some people think it's just rolling the eyes on these shows!
most story lines have been done before so it is not rocket science! i'm sure many of these people rolling their eyes also watch fear factor, apprentice and other reality shows! so how can i really take these people whom roll their eyes seriously!

Good Vibrations is no different then Momma mia and other shows that are appealing to the mass general public!

So i guess some threater people only want Heavy Drama! that is nice way to Bankrupt Broadway with all serious and heavy dramatic play's and musicals!

this country is at War and i get enough drama on the news and people love a Musical like Momma mia, and all those type of shows!

The only show i could not stand was River dance i saw that in london! other then that i normally enjoy a variety of shows!

I'm a bit sadden to see some theater people have an attitude, i never seen this side to it before and i was around it all my life with my mom working for the theater for many many years! most people are nice that i have met that are involved in the theater so i'm a bit surprised to hear that some theater people roll their eyes with shows like GV or Momma mia etc...on and on!

I will not understand this attitude and even my mom is surprised to hear this!

I don't think Any Broadway show should be $ 100 , so that is another issue all together! that is just horrible the shows cost that much and Broadway will just dig themselves deeper into more problems!

to take a family of 4 i guess it would cost like $400 plus! that is pretty nutts!
to me the Problem is the Price of all Broadway shows and not the shows itself!

I have to admitt i don't think Ice skating fans are this well? a nice way to put it i guess some people have a bit of a snobby attitude! that is sad to see!

I'm sure the people in GV will be happy to beable to get some work, pay their bills and have more experience on their resume!

congrats to the people that did make it and many people are out of work so i think it's great these actors now have job!

People love the Beach boys and so i'm sure they will do a good job on this musical!

So in other words you have a problem with all "jukebox" musicals, right? Don't they all use the music of the artists without the actual artists singing?

Yes. But I assume what you meant to say was, "Don't all musicals use music without the actual artists singing?" And to that I say no. You're using the term "artist" as it's used in the music industry- to refer to the singer who first sings a song and may have had a hand in composing it. In what I consider a non-jukebox musical, the roles of composer and singer are separated. Not that they have to be, but that's mostly how it is. I adore their work, but I don't really want to hear Stephen Sondheim or Andrew Lippa sing onstage.

My problem is that with bands like the Beach Boys, they were the composers and the performers when the works were first performed. They made the songs popular. Their name became a brand, synonymous for many people with good music. So when I say this is a glorified Beach Boys concert, I mean it. The Mamma Mia! interpretations of ABBA songs certainly didn't impress me as much as the originals.

And don't musicals have storylines just like "plays"?

What are you talking about? Musicals and plays both usually have storylines, though there are exceptions to even that rule. But plays have nothing to do with this. It's about musicals, and especially jukebox musicals.

The kind of musical that I prefer is what's known as a book musical- the kind that has songs built around a plot rather than vice versa. Build a plot around songs and you get a plot that's slightly cheesey and hard to believe at best, and unbearably awful at worst. That's another of my objections to the "jukebox" genre.

Don't the singers in musicals also have to act?

Of course they do. When did I suggest otherwise?

What's so different about Good Vibrations?
I have answered this question multiple times in this thread (and this post).

I heard it had a storyline with a twist at the end? Isn't that a play?

Put simply- no. The big difference between a play and a musical is that a play is, well...non-musical. People speak; there's no score and definitely no big musical numbers. At most a person might burst into song in the context of the plot or there might be some underscoring.

A musical, on the other hand, has a score. There are a lot of songs that are very important to the plot and character development of the piece. There are also musical numbers in which everything is musicalized for a space of time.

Good Vibrations is a musical. No doubt about that. My problems with it lie elsewhere.

Yes. But I assume what you meant to say was, "Don't all musicals use music without the actual artists singing?" And to that I say no. >>

No, I was speaking specifically to the "jukebox" musicals like Mama Mia, Movin Out, All Shook up, etc. You have now told me the difference between a play and a musical so I will try to use the correct term from now on. I see there is another discussion on this board about whether a plot is needed for a musical. Very enlightening.

i'm still pissed that i missed the chance to see smile live.

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who the hell said anything about guarini in this?

Justin Guarini was in the Vassar production of Good Vibrations and is rumored to be in the Broadway production. We are waiting for the final cast list.

how about a 4,000 word essay then? lol

momma mia and many of those shows don't have a big name as the lead cause they are ensamble cast!

and only a few people seem to make fun of justin it actually was only some of the media that in with 19 management and rca since justin left rca and 19, the media has been very nice to Justin! so the blackballing is over with!

don't underestimate Justin Guarini's fan base! 10 million people voted for him on Ai-1 and he got almost 1/2 the vote!

Justin is more famous then any Broadway actor to be honest! I hardly no the names of the actors i have seen over the years on broadway sad but true as it might be!

If mathew Brodrick can attrack a huge drawing for the PRODUCERS i think Justin will do quite well in his part if he does this show and he attracted many people to the workshop it was all sold out and trust me many of the fans were justin fans that flew from all over the country!

I love Mathew brodrick, but i do think Justin is a better singer, actor and dancer! so this smaller part that Justin has is a great start for him !

the only reason Justin did not do well under rca and 19 was they Purposely wanted him to fail and drop him in a year! Nothing he did was promoted and he was screwed over so the winner of ai-1 would be the only success from the first show! it was out right sabatoge and fans have much evidence of this!

so the Media gave Justin great Press when he did Vassar college and the Media does not have to worry about fox network or 19 rca trying to bribe them and blackball justin the game is over Justin left and is a Free man! that is why u don't hear anything bad anymore about Justin or slanderous remarks cause he is not a slave to be slandered and ruined by 19 and rca no longer!

as far as i saw Justin got amazing press from Vassar and the media seems very ready to embrace Justin now! they know he has 10 million TV land fans and they will be interested in Justin if he is on TV or in some show! some day when Justin puts out a record again and he has some Promotion and distribution i guarenteee he will sell 10 times his 150,000 copies he did with no distribution or promotion!

Just you wait Justin will slowly make a comeback and many People are waiting for him to do this even the Media expects Justin to show us all what we know he is capable of!

I had talked to someone at the chronicle in SF who is the music critic! i asked him why were some of the Press so hard on Justin? he said because they expected GREAT things from Justin cause he was soo Talented and sadly Rca/19 had held Justin back! I was told that by a well known large new paper reporter that covers music for the chronicle!

maybe some people here did not see the Press that Justin got for the show at Vassar college cause he got even world wide press for being in the workshop!

only a few people on this board seem to have a weird attitude and there are many Nice fans i have met here! so maybe it is just time to ignore the few people that seem to only want to have long discussions about joke box musicals yada yada yada!

my suggestion is if u don't care for shows like Momma mia and jokebox musicals then go support all the other many shows out there that are not juke box musicals and give a review on those!

if i don't like vanilla ice cream i surely don't order it and don't bother to discuss it! i prefer rockey road and marble fudge ice cream and mocha almond fudge to! oh yes, Brownie ice cream from ben and jerries!

we can't change what shows are produced and if u don't like the shows out there then write your own and become a producer and writer! lol

how many words am i up to? 3005? lol

people love the Beach boys music trust me! i was at our Mall and it was the 50th anniversary of the mall and they had this great throw back band that did so many old songs and many beach boy songs the crowd loved it! it sure brought back great memories!

Unless u are old enough to remember the beach boys music then maybe the young people would not like this show? but i think their music is soo universal and timesless i even hear it on the radio still! people love the Beach boys and only a few sour grape people here seem to have a problem with it! the world loved the beach boys and i use to like them way more then the Beatles back them!

goooo Beach boys' music and no matter who sings thier songs it's the music people love and as the example of hearing their music at the mall by some band they are just great songs and people love them!

what musical on Broadway is done by the orginal artist! most shows have different actors and singers and don't use the same person in the part and interchange people all the time! so i thought that comment was a bit silly! it does not matter who sings the songs as long as they are a good singer it's the music and songs themselves are what attract people!

I have no idea who sang in Phantom show i saw in SF they changed the actors and same with most shows are like that !

i think i hit 4,000 words so i'll end it here! lol

One thing is for sure, if justin is in it, it will be great!! he's mega talented and it's about time more people see that!!

wicked fan 2...lol...here is an asprin then! lol!

i got a headache also so i think my post was too long! lol

here u go JJsugar's shortest post ever on this board! lol

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hello plum.. joke box musical is really a Juke box musical without my glasses i can't see well when i type hence the typos! lol... hehe! ops...i meant Juke box musical that some people call it i guess i am learning these stuff as i go!

i have no issue with people that might not like musicals like momma mia and i no many people that have gone to it and loved it so it really is preference!

I do however agree with you on one major point about $ 100 for a broadway show ticket? i'm in calif but i guess it is more expensive on broadway! but it is still expensive even out here! I have been very Lucky all my life i have Never had to Pay for a show in my life only cause my Mom worked for the theater since i was a Kid and her friends will get us tickets since she is not working there anymore!

But i do realize and feel bd for people Paying that much money to see a show i think all the Broadway shows need to reduce their ticket price! Maybe if they did not Pay Nathan lane 5 million a year and Mathew brodick millions and many of the Headliners will get tons of money then tickets would not be %100 a pop!

it is like a Baseball game the Players make Millions and a family can now Barely afford to take their family to a game!

so i have to say i do agree with all that and it has Nothing to do with GV and it is just a Pet peeve of mine!

When the TV show friends all those spoiled People making millions well all i can think of is how much my Cereal will go up at the store cause the Advertisment rates to advertise on NBC during friends and other times with Hiking rates Tickels down to the Consumers and don't think u don't pay for it at the check out stand cause u do!

I wish their was a Cap of how much money these Hollywood and some people can make cause they really do drive up the cost of everyone the Big celebrities do not the People that are more just trying to make a living!

I think those Friends actors made like 20 million each a year! that is crazy and well I did read that Nathan lane whom i LOVE and some Broadway stars make a crap load of money!

I do think they deserve some money sure and i just have more issues with when they get Millions and it forces up the prices to the point only Rich people can afford to attend these shows! that is a Sad thing in our country most families even have a hard time affording a baseball game or the movies are now $10! no wonder DVD and moves are a big industry u can buy the dang movie now for almost going to the theater!

Those Celebrites that are soo Greedy like on Freinds i hope they don't get any jobs again in movies or anything! I hate to say that, but i think they were greedy and there should be some kind of Cap on ADvertising rates and how celebrities can make! instead we have run away inflation and it is very sad!

so i think your point about what u want to spend you $100 on is important cause the fact is cost that much is sad for any show and if it was more reasonable to go to ANY show that is then people could enjoy more shows and not worry as much about the cost!

the same people that Loved Momma mia will i'm sure also like Good vibrations so it should do well and i'm sure some people will have a great time!

ops i'm up to 2,000 words i'll cut it short my fingers are tired! LOL

"what I was trying to point out is that unlike (most) showtunes, the songs of that band are associated with the singers who first performed them- the Beach Boys themselves"

Plum, I hear ya. It can be hard to accept covers from such distinctive artists as The Beach Boys and The Beatles, but one should keep an open mind about it. One example is the 'I Am Sam' soundtrack which is all covers of Lennon/McCartney tunes. It has an amazing version of 'Across the Unvierse' by Rufus Wrainwright that is even beter than the original. I also adore 'Julia' by Chocolate Genius.

As for GV, I think the version of Sloop JohnB, stripped down and played with guitars is a better version of the song as it's closer to it's original West Indies roots. The stage version of 'In My Room' (sung by Megan McGinnis) was also lovely.I haven't seen 'Mama Mia', but I have heard the soundtrack and I think GV does a fresher approach to their respective song catelog.

This is an entirely different topic, but if you think the baseball players are responsible for high ticket prices, you haven't been reading enough of the late, great, Doug Pappas.

There's a lot more greed going on in the higher levels of entertainment enterprises (ownership, corporations, etc.) than people seem to notice.

And don't forget that the price of everything is higher in New York, and the price of anything that involves tourists is even higher. But this isn't about prices; it's about Good Vibrations, which I'll never pay $100 to see. :P

Updated On: 10/2/04 at 02:24 PM