"Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor."- Page 2
"Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor."
#25re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/15/09 at 12:58am
It was something along the lines of Michael Jackson was accused of molesting two little children so out of fear he feld to Avenue Q.
(Being Serious)
"Everything in life, is only for now"
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rabymon10
Stand-by Joined: 10/30/06
#26re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/15/09 at 1:09amYou're all full of ****. The Australian production uses Gary Coleman, and always has. Started in Melbourne ahead of a national tour, currently in Sydney. That is all.
#27re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/15/09 at 1:14amRabymon winston just made a mistake. Its actually the hungarian production but there is no need to chew his head off..
"Everything in life, is only for now"
-Avenue Q
Jon
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/20/04
#28re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/15/09 at 11:02amCarol Burnett sued the producers of "FAMILY GUY" because they did a bit with her "scrubwoman" character mopping the floor in porno peep show booths while a song that "sorta" sounded like her theme song played. She lost the suit.
winston89
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/18/06
#29re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/15/09 at 11:48am
rabymon10, Your reaction to what was a very simple mistake was way out of line.
Jon, I did hear about that Family Guy story. It is true that one can sue for anything, but the thing is is that will they always win and will it always be succcessful? No, of course not. Family Guy is one of those shows that does do parodies and satire but never crosses the line in the same vein as SNL, which is why I think that it never lost the lawsuit to begin with due to the fact that what they were doing was not against the law at all.
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#30re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/15/09 at 1:47pm
Here is video of the Micheal Jackson character
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5uP-epfZrg
#31re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/15/09 at 6:08pmThey usually had Gary's with especially large breasts. That always distracted me a little from the character. (though the lasts thing I usually look at are breasts ;] )
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#32re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/15/09 at 6:18pmThe Michael character looks tasteless and hilarious.
xoangel2789xo
Broadway Star Joined: 11/3/07
#33re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 2:25amI actually liked it better with a male Gary.
raker
Stand-by Joined: 12/27/08
#34re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 8:32amI always assumed that Gary Coleman was paid by Avenue Q. It's one thing to mock him if he's in on the joke (and the loot) but it's crappy to make fun of a man on stage every night without his consent. It worked for Mel Brooks and Hitler, but come on, even Gary Coleman deserves some dignity.
ricklyon
Swing Joined: 8/2/04
#35re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 9:38am
Raker, have you seen the show? Gary is one of the wisest characters, and is cast in a very positive light. It doesn't make fun of him. No one calls him a has-been or laughs at his situation except himself. Gary Coleman should be happy that AVENUE Q makes him seem like a well-adjusted, knowing fellow who has pretty much accepted what life has thrown at him.
The casting change is driven primarily by economics. If Gary is a man, the show requires fewer understudies. The casting for Q has always been a bit tricky, because the roles of Christmas Eve and Gary are both specific ethnicities, and (originally) both female.
friedrichVT
Leading Actor Joined: 5/4/06
#36re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 10:04amits back to being a woman.
raker
Stand-by Joined: 12/27/08
#37re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 10:45am
I saw Avenue Q. It was one of the most enjoyable evenings I've ever had in thirty years of theater going. Everyone should see it. It's wonderful.
But really now. Gary Coleman is there to be the butt of a joke. It comes off as a good-natured joke, but it's a little pointed too. After all, his sucky life is the topper in It Sucks To Be Me. I wonder if his being played by a man will make it more literal and therefore a little more pointed, unless of course he's played by a very tall and handsome man.
winston89
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/18/06
#38re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 12:10pmI doubt the gender of the actor playing it is going to change the joke. They cast the character with a male actor in London and I doubt that by doing that they lost the humor in the role.
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Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#39re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 12:48pmDoes a male actor really save them money on understudies, though?
winston89
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/18/06
#40re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 12:51pmI think it would considering the fact that there are more males in the cast then there are females. It would save them money to have the role of Gary be an additional understudy track then have to hire someone to do the role altogether just for that one track.
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Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#41re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 12:55pm
So then in addition to him now being played by a man, he'd be played by a white man when his understudy went on?
I'm not being antagonistic, I just don't recall seeing a lot of african-american male faces in this show over the years.
winston89
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/18/06
#42re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 12:58pmI am guessing that they would do what they do in London with the role. Which is have the main actor be male, yet, cast both male and female understudies for it.
"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear"
Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#43re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 1:01pmHmm. I guess I'm still not getting it. Wouldn't having two understudies increase the cost? Or would they just not have the role played by an African-American understudy?
winston89
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/18/06
#44re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 1:06pmI don't think that it is possible for the role to be played by a white guy without it coming off as racist.
"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear"
Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#45re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 1:11pm
Agreed. But I was referring to this statement earlier -
The casting change is driven primarily by economics. If Gary is a man, the show requires fewer understudies. The casting for Q has always been a bit tricky, because the roles of Christmas Eve and Gary are both specific ethnicities, and (originally) both female.
They are still specific ethnicities, so unless they are now going to make sure they always have an African-American man who can cover Brian and the puppets as well as Gary Coleman, I don't see how it's going to save them any money understudies.
Again, I might just be missing something.
ricklyon
Swing Joined: 8/2/04
#46re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/16/09 at 2:20pmBecause the men in the show, including the puppet roles, can be any ethnicity. But with the Broadway casting, the human women are both specific ethnicities. So any male understudy can sub for any male role, but the female Xmas Eve and Gary subs have to be a specific ethnicity (as well as a specific gender). See? A female Gary understudy cannot understudy Xmas Eve, nor can they understudy male roles, and there are more males in the cast. A male African-American understudy can understudy ALL the male roles (including Gary with this change), but a female African-American can only understudy Gary and the female puppeteer roles.
#47re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/17/09 at 12:02am
According to this casting notice, "the role of Gary will revert back to being played by a female actor."
I guess they changed their minds.
http://www.playbill.com/jobs/find/job_detail/27149.html
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Updated On: 9/17/09 at 12:02 AM
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#48re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/17/09 at 12:10am
I wouldn't just say "you're wrong" to Rick Lyon. The Rick Lyon who designed the puppets & originally played Nicky & Trekkie.
#49re: 'Gary Coleman will now be played by a MALE actor.'
Posted: 9/17/09 at 12:11am
The fact that they aren't using an African-American male understudy shoots what was discussed in the foot regardless.
Tonya Pinkins: Then we had a "Lot's Wife" last June that was my personal favorite. I'm still trying to get them to let me sing it at some performance where we get to sing an excerpt that's gone.
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
Updated On: 9/17/09 at 12:11 AM
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
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