Glee just won best ensemble at the Sag Awards — Page 2

Oh come on now. The cast of Modern Family could FART hilariously. They are veterans of great comedic series like Ed O'neill, star of "Married With Children" which ran for most of the lifetimes of some of the posters on this thread and Julie Bowen from "Boston Legal" and "Ed." With a good, smart and we all agree funny script, that show would have gotten a pilot commitment from any network.

But walking into a network and telling them you want to do a series about a Glee Club (not even the schcool theater club forgawdsake) with a cast of unknowns and they are going to lip-sink to show tunes and Aretha Franklin? I can guarantee you that is no easy sale.

I was simply saying that "Glee" is a much riskier show than "Modern Family." We all know "Modern Family " is funny but why do you keep bringing it up on a site about musical theater?

I can abvsolutely guarantee much of the acclaim the cast and producers of "Glee" are getting is because they did something that could have failed colossally and they pulled it off.

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I agree. I think Avatar is a big blue turd. It's a uber-SPFX version of Ferngully or A Man Called Horse.

From the viewpoint of a SAG member who is voting for Best Comedy Television Ensemble Cast, again I can understand why "Glee" won. The actors on "Modern Family" are working from painfully funny scripts well within their comfort zone.

Ed O'Neill spent YEARS playing these types of roles and this type of comedy. The producers Christopher Lloyd and Steve Levitan ARE sitcoms. They created some of the most successful shows of the 90s and produced season-after-season of "Frasier." This is the comedy Old Boy Network with a fresh new set of shingles and screen doors.

"Glee" on the other hand is a stand-alone. The only thing I can compare it to is the Steven Bochco Cop Rock which sucked the carpets. Not exactly much of a pedigree.

I pitch to the networks and studios all the time and believe you me, I would not want to have had to try to tell a Vice President of Production or Development that I wanted to do a show about Glee Clubs which would constantly be interrupted by musical numbers before Glee came along. (Although I'll bet now EVERY pitch has musical numbers in it.)

Ryan Murphy co-created "Popular" with my former agent and that had some elements in common with "Glee" but his big success "Nip/Tuck" is certainly not an indicator that he's going to hit the jackpot with a musical comedy series.

As I said, it got a Golden Globe because it deserved it and I think (in fact obviously) a majority of actors (well, at least a plurality) believed it deserved an Actor.

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