Glory Days? Tony nom?- Page 2

[BustopherPhantom]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 3:43pm

BustopherPhantom was unclear on TonyVincent's meaning and thought that he was saying that short shows don't belong on broadway. She just didn't read his comment correctly, that's all.

Yeah, I just realized: a big sorry to all offended parties.

But I do have to-and not to negate your argument, but-I'm actually a "he". I really have to get my hair cut, you have to be at least the tenth person who's made that mistake.

Again, sorry.

[jaystarr]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 3:44pm

I just downloaded the songs....oh....I dont know how to make out of it???

J*

[jrb]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 3:48pm

That's super lame of me, bustopher. Major apologies. I had long hair for a while, too...I got the same thing. I'll go back and modify the posts. Really sorry.

[WhizzerMarvin]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 3:58pm

Jay, how would you describe what you heard of the score?

[jaystarr]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 4:04pm

I listened to it twice already.. It grows on you... very TOS...but more melodic!

I just pm you the demos.. for those who want pm me... I will forward you the link..

J*

[jaystarr]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 4:04pm

I listened to it twice already.. It grows on you... very TOS...but more melodic!

I just pm you the demos.. for those who want pm me... I will forward you the link..

J*

[gymdudeva]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 4:12pm

Here is what I posted in another thread:

I saw it in VA at Signature...and it was NOT VERY GOOD!!! The writing was very very immature, and the songs all sounded alike! The cast was good but did the best they could with bad material. It's 4 guys kvetching about how much they miss the good old days and how much things have changed .... in the TWO YEARS SINCE HIGH SCHOOL!! I am not kidding. It was written by some guys in their early twenties, and it was their first show. It wasn't even up to Signature's usual standards...but BROADWAY!?!? I am flabbergasted. At least one of the guys was really hunky.

[KChenowethfan]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 4:13pm

Updated On: 3/12/08 at 04:13 PM

[KChenowethfan]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 4:14pm

This really surprises me. I saw this show at Signature and of all of the possible candidates to go into Circle in the Square, this did not even make it on my radar. It was a cute little show with a thin book and a pop-based score with a lot of nice hooks but not much variety. I don't know why it was even made. There is no real value added to the existing musical theatre cannon. Definitely not one of my favorites. I don't think its ready but its nice the young authors are getting their shot, I guess.

Updated On: 3/12/08 at 04:14 PM

[BlueRoses321]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 4:17pm

I completely disagree in every way.
Immature is an interesting word.
These are 18/19 yr old characters.
A problem often found in musicals that deal with young adults, is that the material is way above common vernacular for the characters. It's written by people who understand youth therefore appropriate the material really well. It's all about everything we deal with growing up. We graduate high school and expect things to be somewhat the same, but things change as we are thrust into our adult lives. But we're "supposed" to have it all figured out.. This show deals with so much metaphor concerning young adulthood. Read Peter Marks' review for more insight.

Updated On: 3/12/08 at 04:17 PM

[TonyVincent]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 4:30pm

Thanks so much for clarifying my language and defending my post, jrb. You said how I intended to replyto BP, and much more clearly than I could have done it :).

Sorry for the confusion.

For my personal opinion: I'm all for a show that can get its point across clearly and concisely, although I'd be lying if I didn't think I was getting more value from a 2 1/2 hour show than a 1 1/2 hour show for the same ticket price. If I pay for a ticket, I feel entitled to 2 to 2 1/2 hours, and I might be disappointed if I get less.
Updated On: 3/12/08 at 04:30 PM

[gymdudeva]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 4:38pm

BluRoses, did you actually see the show?

I heard no metaphor, just clunky, VERY obvious dialog. "Oh dude, we've all changed!" "Yeah dude, it sucks that we have to grow up!" "Man, why can't it always be like high school?" "How many times have you gotten laid, dude?"

I couldn't even figure out what the guys' problem was. The whole dramatic tension seemed to be...they graduated high school and....um....it was more fun then....or something...I think the authors utterly failed to relate to any more universal truths.

Here is apart of the review from the Washington City Paper, with which I agree:

The uptempo numbers feel interchangeably, generically angular, and Blaemire hasn’t done any more musically to establish a sense of individuality than Gardiner has with his book. And the upshot—the dawning awareness that we change, and that the pressurized, hermetic friendships of high school don’t always survive the wider world—won’t feel much like 11 o’clock number material to anyone old enough to have been to a high-school reunion.

So give Blaemire and Gardiner credit—for ambition, and for an ingratiating ballad or two, and for capturing the intense narcissism of late teenagerdom. But unless your idea of catharsis is watching four middle-class white boys learn that people keep growing after “Pomp and Circumstance” plays, don’t give ’em your credit card.

[jaystarr]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 4:39pm

I like the song AFTER ALL.. Ive listened to it already 4x.

J*

[BlueRoses321]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 4:47pm

Yes, twice.
I can't even really respond your post. It's a simple story..in real time. It's casual, but specific. Having an opinion about a show and what it does or doesn't do for you makes room for a conversation..but so many ppl on these boards, state their POV like it's the end all and be all.
Your second 2 paragraphs don't even make sense.
Therefore, this can't really be an intelligent discussion.
Updated On: 3/12/08 at 04:47 PM

[Didi3]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 5:47pm

Hey "gymdudeva", come up with a less "obvious" name! The Glory Days vernacular sounds just like you. Oh and hey dude, vernacular means lingo, dude.

[gymdudeva]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 5:50pm

OK, I'll try to be less harsh.

In my very very humble opinion, this is one of the worst-written shows I have ever seen.

I just think I'm a little angry because it sounded like something up my alley and I paid $60 apiece for two tix to treat a friend for his birthday, and the thing was nowhere near Signature's normal standards.

And if this somehow has to do with the fact that I am 47 years old and not 20, then (a) that doesn't say much for the writing at all, and (b) they are going to have a hell of a time with Broadway auudiences.

You can certainly SHOW the angst and confusion of young people (or ANY people) through character development and dialog (e.g., Spring Awakening). However, that's just it...the author needs to be a good (i.e., mature) enough writer to SHOW change or confusion or tension. In my opinion, in this show they just TOLD us outright over and over again from the outset that they had changed, they felt different now, etc. , but there was nothing in the writing that made me SEE that at all, or the reasons for it, or why it was such a problem, or care about it.


Here's another review I agree with. Updated On: 3/12/08 at 05:50 PM

[gymdudeva]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 5:55pm

Didi, HAHAHAHAH, touche' !! The "gymDUDE" name goes back to the early days of the internet, and I just kept using it on boards and such throughout the years. But perhaps I am getting a little long in the tooth to be a "dude".

[Didi3]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 6:08pm

Well I thought Spring Awakening was trash, but what do i know. Spring Awakening and Glory Days are the new Broadway. Get used to it. Broadway is youthful! It's changing...again. 16 years old are getting equity cards. Thank god there are still young American songwriters creating music for theatre. I hope the show does fantastic!

[dave1606]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 6:13pm

hmm....so from what i can hear..the music is nice, but doesn't quite have the Broadway feel for me. So nice harmonies, but doesn't sound that new. Perhaps I am still getting over N2n not coming, but I am both surprised this is gonna be on broadway and that there is talk of a tony nom. I will try to withhold too much judgment until I actually see it though. I definitely do like some of the songs. I'm with you with "after all" jay! thanks again!

[shesamarshmallow]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 6:13pm

Oh man, I was THIS close to driving down to VA to see this but my friend with a car wasn't willing to spend the $100+ and eight hours round trip. So yay!

[germ83]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 7:09pm

Updated On: 3/20/08 at 07:09 PM

[KChenowethfan]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 7:42pm

I suppose I was in the target audience (20-somethings) and even I could not care about the characters and their plight in this show. Sure the plot could have been filled with deep symbolism about transitions in life in general, but sorry, I couldn't get past the predictable book and repetititive score. It was like watching a Dawson's Creek like show on stage. Painful.

[dave1606]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 8:03pm

theres a myspace with some videos on it Open Road is a nice song I must say.

[rapplega]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 8:19pm

The Signature blog also has some good video of the show.
Signature Speaks blog

[dave1606]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 10:28pm

hey rapplega, thanks for that link. thats a decent vid!