#26
Posted: 11/26/16 at 6:15pm
Jarethan - I think all of those are great suggestions for Rose. I'd also love to see Marin Mazzie, Christine Ebersole and Donna Murphy.
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#27
Posted: 11/26/16 at 6:15pm
I don't really get it. No matter how great it was in the theater, the video is what will last forever and the general consensus on that is overwhelmingly negative. I might give Imelda another shot if she's given a different supporting cast and (hopefully) a different director. I think she has it in her to be a Rose for the ages, but she seemed directed to be as charm-free and shrill as possible.
I agree that, if they're going to bring Gypsy back in the next few years, it needs a name. Kristen Chenoweth would be inspired, although she wasn't terribly good in Promises, Promises. It might be interesting to see someone so upbeat and peppy as Rose, almost as if she's using it as a mask to hide behind. I've always felt it would be interesting to see "Everything's Coming Up Roses" played as a song of unwavering optimism instead of an angry and emotional tour-de-force. It seems like it would be chilling to have someone like Chenoweth smiling grotesquely through the entire song as Louise ands Herbie look on, horrified...much like how the original team wrote the song for Merman, believing she wouldn't be able to act it, so they just told her to sing it like a power anthem and have the heavy lifting to her co-stars.
#28
Posted: 11/26/16 at 6:39pm
ComingUpRoses2 said: "I agree that, if they're going to bring Gypsy back in the next few years, it needs a name."
Since it doesn't look like her movie is being produced any time soon, this could be Barbra's moment...
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#29
Posted: 11/26/16 at 6:47pm
I love that everyone is recasting and redirecting. Deal with it. You're getting Imelda Staunton directed by Jonathan Kent. End of story.
#30
Posted: 11/26/16 at 6:50pm
It was filmed, is on Blu Ray, and aired on PBS. A "Gypsy" revival with someone in the realm of Sutton, Audra, Kristin, or Marin in 5 years would be welcome, but not now and not with Imelda. We already have it preserved! And I doubt she will be a big draw in the US: "Gypsy" is already more of a prestige piece than it is a commercial home run.
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#31
Posted: 11/26/16 at 7:45pm
MadonnaMusical said: "I wonder if we'll ever get an age appropriate Mama Rose... A woman who believably has a ten year old child... instead of looking like her grandmother. If Imelda can play the role why not babs? Just saying...
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The little kids are only in the first few scenes before they are replaced by the late-teen girls. If Rose looks 35 in the early scenes, she'll look too young by the end, when Louise is presumably in her mid- to late-20s.
So Angela, at a youthful-looking 51, really split the difference nicely. Her grown-up Louise in the Florida productions (Nan Tucker) was 19. So Rose was roughly 30 years older than her younger daughter, which worked all through the play.
By contrast, Streisand is 74.
Staunton will be 61 in six weeks.
Updated On: 11/26/16 at 07:45 PM
#32
Posted: 11/26/16 at 8:38pm
g.d.e.l.g.i. said:
Since it doesn't look like her movie is being produced any time soon, this could be Barbra's moment...
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If only Barbra would do a limited engagement on stage, but she's so dead set on making Gypsy her cinematic swan song and not her theatrical swan song. She probably has the money to produce it herself (at least partly). I don't know why she doesn't try a smaller studio that's picking up steam like Netflix or Amazon. If she were smart, she'd get HBO or something to tape a one-night stage performance of the show or, hell, just record an album with all the songs. It would probably sell quite well. Get the cast together she was going to use in the film and have them record the entire show. She could even do the dialogue scenes.
As for the age of Rose, I see no reason why Rose couldn't be young. The real Rose was probably in her early 40's at the most by the end of the show. She had her children fairly young. I don't know why Rose always has to be played by a woman over 50. I don't think it adds anything.
#33
Posted: 11/26/16 at 8:49pm
Tag said: "I love that everyone is recasting and redirecting. Deal with it. You're getting Imelda Staunton directed by Jonathan Kent. End of story.
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Preach
#34
Posted: 11/26/16 at 8:54pm
Smaxie said: "It was great in the theatre. Absolutely great. The favorite of all of the Roses I've seen (Lansbury, Daly, Peters, Buckley and Lupone). Her performance was not modulated for the TV cameras, and it doesn't have the same magic. Not sure who else they would bring over, but with an American cast surrounding her, I wouldn't be so quick to snub it.
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Hah, I am no means a Sondheim fan, but saw this in Chichester and the West End and thought it was fantastic, as the learned Smaxie says it is a completely different experience and package in the theatre, than on television. Theatre is done on a stage for a good reason.
#35
Posted: 11/26/16 at 9:05pm
^^^^ Although Sondheim's lyrics are excellent, I think GYPSY is more a Jute Styne show. It's content and form are closer to Styne's other shows than to Sondheim's.
Updated On: 11/26/16 at 09:05 PM
#36
Posted: 11/26/16 at 9:11pm
ComingUpRoses2 said: "...As for the age of Rose, I see no reason why Rose couldn't be young. The real Rose was probably in her early 40's at the most by the end of the show. She had her children fairly young. I don't know why Rose always has to be played by a woman over 50. I don't think it adds anything.
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My point was that if Rose is 40, that may make sense in Act I, but by the end of the show it will mean she had her younger child when she was no more than 12. If you have to choose between realism at the top of the show or realism at the end (and you do), I think realism is more important in those final scenes.
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