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Has the Golden Age of Musicals past?

If one were to look at the evolution of the English language stage musical from the early 1900's to the present day would one conclude that the peaks of the art form were reached in the years beginning in 1927 with SHOWBOAT and ending in 1971 with FOLLIES?

Producing for the stage continues to be hucksterism--get butts in the seats and make a profit. That hasn't and won't change. To what degree have societal changes however affected the type of show produced to entice audiences particularly post-CATS?

I recently returned from London where the two shows I found of any interest--ANYTHING GOES and A WOMAN OF NO IMPORTANCE--were stimulating, very enjoyable, polished to a high sheen and not written before 1935. Looking at the musicals beginning in 2000 should one conclude that mass globalization of American social culture has shown its face in the type and subject-matter of musicals one will be seeing on Broadway and the West End?

Comments, please?

Yours for a better Broadway!


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Dramatic forms, by their very nature, come and go. The Greek drama lasted 70 years, and the differences between Aeschylus and Euripides are, basically, the entire world. The Elizabethan theatre that gave us Marlowe and Shakespeare was only around a few decades; so was the French era that gave us Molière.

The American musical comedy was, I would say, dead by 1970. The '70s, you will notice, included a clash of styles of rather large proportions, as "plotless" concept musicals did battle with scores that derived their sound from the popular music of the era. The '80s were the decade of the megamusical, whose first volley was Evita (which, in something of a weird Hegelian synthesis, is a concept musical with a pop score) and whose last was Miss Saigon; Phantom is the only remnant of that turbulent period, which managed to drive production values through the roof, along with ticket sales, and unparalleled longevity (Cats - 18 years, Les Misérables - 16 years, The Phantom of the Opera - 15 years so far, Miss Saigon - 10 years).

I would argue that we're still waiting for a new theatrical form to become dominant. With the megamusical no longer feasible, we now see the film-becoming-musical as the hot trend of right now, but I think that one will hit diminishing returns, and quickly. The crop of recent American voices is still without a dominant central form, or a commercial success to really cement any of them in the spotlight. Likewise, the "straight" play flounders about without a solid central model of any sort, imitating plays from all sorts of sources in the 19th and 20th centuries, but not having a binding thread or a clear brilliant voice in the mix.

I think the principal problem with musicals is that writing libretti is, by and large, a lost art; that's going to block any real innovation from the scene for a long time. I'm not a psychic, and I can't tell you what's coming next, but I think it'll have a hard time becoming popular enough to really be significant.

-Wayne
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First of all, Wayne, you get a skajillion bonus points for your use of the phrase, "a weird Hegelian synthesis."

And second, you hit the nail real hard on the head when you wrote, "I can't tell you what's coming next, but I think it'll have a hard time becoming popular enough to really be significant."

I think you're probably right. It's a very different world now. And I know there's a tendency around here to be a real booster and people talking about "supporting Broadway" as if it were a non-profit, but really, theater is well on its way to distributing the really strong work to the regionals. That's not a bad thing. Think locally, act globally.

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Think of when the last time a Broadway song made the pop charts - and was a HIT. "Aquarius"? "Send in the Clowns"? That should tell you when the 'Golden Age of Musicals' passed.

In other words, the 'Golden Age' ended when Broadway musicals stopped influencing the sound of popular culture (and not the other way around).
"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"
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It ended for me when one left the theatre humming the sets, costumes, and special effects instead of some memorable TUNES which taken out of context are nothing but junk. Even in context........
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My belief is that the Golden Age of Musicals ended with "A Chorus Line"
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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can i just say "passed" please...surprised Dollypop wasn't all over that. But great points in here by any account.
Will: They don't give out awards for helping people be gay... unless you count the Tonys. "I guarantee that we'll have tough times. I guarantee that at some point one or both of us will want to get out. But I also guarantee that if I don't ask you to be mine, I'll regret it for the rest of my life..."
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Agreed...which is why I want to decamp for LA. I might as well make some money, right?
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
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In his book One More Kiss, Ethan Mordden writes that the Golden Age officialy ended when David Merrick appeared at the opening night curtain of 42nd Street to tell the cast, the audience and the world that Gower Champion had died that day.

Once you think about it, that second is when our innocence really ended with a bucket of ice water. After that came heartless English mega-musicals, corporate Broadway and over-intellectualizing of an emotional art form.

The ship called The Golden Age had been sinking little by little before that, but it sank under the waves then.

Quick, name five "great" musicals that have opened since Sweeney Todd. Not 'good', 'very good' or 'near-great' musicals; name five GREAT musicals. There aren't five. Sure, there are five you like, even love. But they're not great musicals.

And I'm an optimist.


"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true. And that would be unacceptable." --Carrie Fisher
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I will:

Evita
Les Miserables
Rent (considered a landmark)
Ragtime
Hairspray

Based on score and book and which shows will continue to be produced decades from now in regional, community, and educational theatre--I'd say these great musicals will stand the test of time. However, it's harder to quantify art this close to it.

I'd also like to add:
Miss Saigon
Little Shop of Horrors
Into the Woods
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
I Love You, You're Perfect...
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Updated On: 10/27/03 at 03:21 PM

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WOSQ, didn't Mordden say elsewhere that the golden age ended with Bye Bye Birdie?

Gower Champion died in 1980. My innocence was long gone before then.
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seems like most of the texts i've read start the "true Golden Age" with OKLAHOMA in 1943 and end it with SOUND OF MUSIC in 1963. Of course, that is putting a lot of trust in R&H. It's all relative.

As far as "Bangkok" and the Top Ten, an exception might be made for "I Will Always Love You." While Parton wrote it (i think) long before her movie version of WHOREHOUSE, it was included in that film (possibly to Carol Hall's chagrin), then of course in BODYGUARD. It hit Top Ten, if not #1, both times. Not sure if that makes it a "show tune" or not. Then there is the sampling of "Hard Knock Life" for the rap version. And "I Am What I Am" for the retro-disco version. It's perfectly valid that Broadway used to strongly influence popular music (but then again Tin Pan Alley and the Great White Way shared many composers, not all of whom worked exclusively in musicals), but to date an era using that guide seems a little arbitrary.

P.S. i don't really track these things, but my bet is that the CHICAGO THE MOVIE recording has sold fairly well---either before and/or after the DVD release.
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Updated On: 10/27/03 at 03:39 PM

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Has the Golden Age of Musicals past?

This is a new "Golden Age" of musicals. The older people might think differently, but to the younger people this is what musical theatre is. Everything in America is about change. Wouldn't life we boring without change? I do agree that the score and book should be better than the technical production. Admit it, to see a show these days without awesome special effects, sets, lights, etc., the show would get boring. What if you walked out of the theatre humming the songs and "humming" the whole production concept? Whouldn't that be even better? The creative people on Bway are becoming more and more creative...they might be overpowering the performers. You just have to accept change. I am not saying that the classic musicals cannot be hits, they just will have to change to accustom today's musical theatre style.
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Updated On: 10/27/03 at 03:44 PM

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A show is great in the writing. A great production can cover a host of shortcomings (Phantom comes to mind), but a great musical can be done on a virtually bare stage with few costumes and few props. If a huge physical production with big effects is really necessary to the show, perhaps there is less there than meets the eye.

The play's the thing.
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true. And that would be unacceptable." --Carrie Fisher
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very good point WOSQ--a great play or musical has to be completely self contained in the script that arrives in the mail. You should be able to close your eyes and still enjoy a show.
However, we do need to design, etc. to create a better visual palette.
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Usually once a day, I find myself feeling like Hermione Gingold. Some days, it's the Hermione of MUSIC MAN, other days, the Ms. G of Gigi. Today, I find myself akin to her NIGHT MUSIC persona:

Where is style, where is skill, where is forethough?
Where's discretion of the heart, where's passion in the art, where's craft?

Where's craft, indeed.

That's the problem, Bdwythtr11. The craft of creating musicals is dwindling. Mr. Sondheim, for all he's given us, is also the one at whom I point the finger. All the new musical writers came along, hoping to be the next Sondheim, when they should all have been hoping to be the next Hammerstein. It is with Oscar the II that Mr. Sondheim learned the craft of writing musicals. It is with the titans of musical theatre (Robbins, Bernstein, Styne and Laurents) that Mr. Sondheim perfected his craft. And it was only after that perfection that he could deconstruct the genre and give us the groundbreaking musicals he created with Hal Prince. The whippersnappers of today have all taken up the mantle of 'deconstructionists' without first learning the elements of good storytelling. It's like being twice removed from the very thing you should be intimately familiar with.
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
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Then there is the rise of the score of diminished expectations.

Scores that are "serviceable", "Okay" or "interesting" are not the stuff of great musicals.

(Does Mordden consider the Merrick incident the 'end' because of Champions' death...or because it signals the rise of the movie-into-stage-show complete with pasted-in score?)
"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"
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Hurray for Robbiej. I'd send you a big kiss through the mail except I can't get my tongue into an envelope! (Mercy!)

The Sondheim conundrum summed up wonderfully.

I hope everyone else reads it and grasps your point. Whether they might agree or not is secondary. The argument has been put out there. And it is put forth intelligently and accessably. Bravo.

And Robbie, I "do" the best channeling of Hermione Gingold you've (n)ever heard. It leapt from my mouth fully formed nearly 20 years ago. She could get more out of a single "yeeeesss" than most actors get out of a whole play full of punchlines.

"In the castle of the Duke of Ferrera..."
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true. And that would be unacceptable." --Carrie Fisher
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wasn't Gingold MAUDE's English maid? (insert Namo-like irony here)
Will: They don't give out awards for helping people be gay... unless you count the Tonys. "I guarantee that we'll have tough times. I guarantee that at some point one or both of us will want to get out. But I also guarantee that if I don't ask you to be mine, I'll regret it for the rest of my life..."
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WOSQ,

Many many thanks! And I would kill to hear your Hermione!

xo
robbiej
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

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