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#51

re: How About No Stunt Casting?

Emcee, Joey has quite a theatre background (so I was told) and I doubt he was able to pull in the crowds from the NKOTB days. I'm not sure if that really qualifies him as stunt casting.

And George Hearn is NOT stunt casting, excuse me.

QM
'He really wasn't good as Fieyro. Is it just me or does he sort of come across as a pimp? Just...the hand motions I've seen him do and the attitude..not that Taye is a pimp.' - SallyBrown on Taye Diggs as Fiyero
#52

re: How About No Stunt Casting?

But he's still kind of "famous." Didn't he have something that tried to be a solo singing career not that many years ago?
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#53

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"Deborah did this thing where she pointed all the time."

Example...

"You *points to Radames* forget that I *points to herself* am her *points off stage* property now, not yours *points to Radames again*.
I want to write music. I want to sit down right now at my piano and write a song that people will listen to and remember and do the same thing every morning...for the rest of my life. - Jonathan Larson. Tick, Tick...BOOM!
#54

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Joey Fatone really wasn't THAT bad in LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS. He sung the role fine and he was comedic. It was, by no means, disastrous, atrocious, or any other negative word that may or may not have been used in this thread.
#55

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ROTFLMAO. YES! I think that was one of the very few times I actually stopped sobbing that day. Brilliantly bad acting.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#56

re: How About No Stunt Casting?

Emcee, do I hear some sarcasm about Joey's solo career in your post? re: How About No Stunt Casting?
Anyway, wouldn't stunt casting imply trying to sell more tickets and advertise the show with that star? They never really did that with Joey. I believe Joey got the part because of his performance in Tick, tick... BOOM.

And to be fair to Deborah, yes, she was a terrible actress but she sure sang the sh*t out of the songs.

QM
'He really wasn't good as Fieyro. Is it just me or does he sort of come across as a pimp? Just...the hand motions I've seen him do and the attitude..not that Taye is a pimp.' - SallyBrown on Taye Diggs as Fiyero
#57

re: How About No Stunt Casting?

Why is it I always end up putting my foot in my mouth? Why don't I think before I hit "submit"? And why do I have to be so young and stupid? *sigh*

It depends on what constitutes "stunt casting". I mean, how is it defined, really? A celebrity in a show? Or just a celebrity who got the part b/c they're famous? And how can we ever know for sure exactly what role fame played in them being hired?

First of all, I KNOW that it was Vanessa WILLIAMS and not Carlton who was in Into the Woods. It was a typo, a misprint, me being really tired and not thinking. When I wrote it, I was definately NOT thinking of the person who sang that song about the thousand miles and time passing us by. And, I haven't heard good things about her run. Maybe you liked her, I've heard from many people who didn't, each to their own.

And I don't care how many shows Christy Carlson Romano was in before she was famous, that doesn't mean she should have been in BATB. From what I heard, her performance in that was really, really bad. Same thing for Joey Fatone- that man should not be cast as Mark in Rent, and he doesn't strike me as much of a Seymour either.

As for the cast of Spamalot, they are the best men to do the job. They deserved to be cast. Yes, absolutely, they are AMAZING. I wish them all the best, I wish Spamalot all the best, etc. But don't tell me that fame didn't help at least a LITTLE bit. Maybe it isn't a blatant example of stunt casting- however, their names help, and it'll be interesting to see how ticket sales go once they're gone (though, at this point, I can't imagine ticket sales dropping drastically... the nature of the show and the nature of the roles should be able to keep the show doing very well even after they're gone).

This is a pretty stupid issue, honestly. People should earn the parts they're cast in! *bangs keyboard in frusteration*
"I mean, how many of us could honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building?"
#58

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"And I don't care how many shows Christy Carlson Romano was in before she was famous, that doesn't mean she should have been in BATB."

Accurate or not, you shouldn't base YOUR comments on something you haven't seen yourself. Just saying....
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka
#59

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I do apologize if this was already said, I didn't read the entire thread - only skimmed it.

I don't think it can be considered stunt casting if they originate the roles. These men are clearly the people they wanted for the role, and I think it is superb casting.
I want to write music. I want to sit down right now at my piano and write a song that people will listen to and remember and do the same thing every morning...for the rest of my life. - Jonathan Larson. Tick, Tick...BOOM!
#60

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Joshua, agreed. I thought Joey Fatone did a fine job in LSOH. I'm actually honestly amazed when people say he was horrible in the role and I wonder if we saw the same person on stage. He has a great voice and his comic timing was spot on.

QM
'He really wasn't good as Fieyro. Is it just me or does he sort of come across as a pimp? Just...the hand motions I've seen him do and the attitude..not that Taye is a pimp.' - SallyBrown on Taye Diggs as Fiyero
#61

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Well, if I'm only basing my comments on stunt casting I've seen, then stunt casting sucks.
"I mean, how many of us could honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building?"
#63

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You also have celebrities who started out in the theatre before they became "famous" and choose to return to it. Sarah Jessica Parker was a replacement Annie (and eventually a replacement Rosemary) long before Sex and the City propelled her to A list stardom. And those who started out famous before they chose to go into theatre (and work to prove themselves), like Joey McIntyre, need not apologize for their fame.
#64

re: How About No Stunt Casting?

"From what I heard, her performance in that was really, really bad. Same thing for Joey Fatone- that man should not be cast as Mark in Rent, and he doesn't strike me as much of a Seymour either"

The key word is "From what I heard..."

I heard Caroline or Change was a bad show, and then I went to see it. I loved it. Obviously, people have their own opinions, and I do not base mine off of "what I heard".

To add another show, I heard Movin' Out was fantastic. I, seriously didn't want to sit through the second act, i hated it so bad...
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.

Updated On: 2/27/05 at 01:23 PM

#65

re: How About No Stunt Casting?

No STUNT CASTING???? You must be kidding or you've never looked at what it costs to mount a Broadway show. If you want things to change, try to get Equity to picket the New York Times every day. The Times does more to require stunt casting (and the obvious casting aside of wonderfully talented, trained actors who'd either like to have leads in shows or a first chance to be made a star by being cast as an unknown). If you could sit in on virtually any planning meeting with any successful, and I underline successful producing group you'd hear them say things like..."but is he an approved director?" (or actor, or writer) etc. And by that they mean they need to check to see if the New York Times approves the person. This is the only way they'll consider bringing a new show to Broadway (or off). But then this is the prevailing wisdom at most of the nonprofits. They must be critic proof to succeed. The New York Times is the biggest cause of this. There are many examples....but I'm sure producers learned a lot when they decided to bring The Graduate to Broadway. Great title, Great star...buck nekkid on Broadway. Who could ask for more? Well these guys did, and insisted that instead of making two stars, they'd cast two young stars in the roles of Elaine and Benjamin. And on the day they opened to lousy reviews they set a box office record for ticket sales.

Sorry....stunt casting isn't even an option any more.

Adam
#66

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Very good work, Loud! I give you an A-!

First, what is stunt casting? You can't say casting someone famous is automatically "Stunt casting" nor can you say it's casting someone who will draw people into the theatre. Hopefully, every actor draw people into the theatre and if you do it well enough long enough you will be famous. And the mentions of "Stunt cating" as a way to juice box office to hype a failing show, well that might be closer to it, but with so many examples from Wicked...well if there is any show that DOESN'T need stunt casting, it's Wicked.

I'd say try stunt casting is using a "star" who's fame is in another area entirely, with no performing experience. Someone whose talents are so unsuited for the role that often the role needs to be changed, sometimes to add showcases for their actual talent. The only show I can think of that has extensively used "Stunt Casting" recently was Grease, who cast Disc Jockeys and Olympic gymnasts in minor roles. Rosie O'Donnell, while horrible, I don't think really counts as SC as she is an actress. Another Grease non-SC was Brooke Shields who somehow has managed to become a respected Broadway Star.

At the height of this epidemic, during Broadway's Golden Age, Celebrity Criminals, War Heroes and famous animals would be written into shows or dropped into reviews. THAT is stunt casting!

Here in Chicago, a production of "Rocky Horror" had some trouble putting butts into the seats and so they "cast" a notoriously homophobic morning Shock Jock to play The Narrator. He walked through the show with script in hand and was apparently terrified of the audience interaction, so he (and the show) didn't last long.
#67

re: How About No Stunt Casting?

I'm a little confused over why people think Spamalot has stunt casting...it almost implies that "hollywood" celebrities don't have the right to be on broadway...in some cases (like Spamalot) there are reasons why these actors are considered A-list...they're amazing!
"Hey Joey McIntyre, is there a balcony in Madison Square Garden? Joey knows his venues a little better than me. That's okay...I have a bigger part on broadway...:)" -Idina Menzel

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