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#1

How About No Stunt Casting?

I'm so sick of how people on this message board keep sayign stuff like, "Wouldn't (insert celebrity name here) be great on Broadway?" We have enough awful stunt casting already and we don't need more. Broadway performers are plenty talented. We don't need any more celebrities.
#2

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Not to rain on your parade, but I say cast the best person for the job - celebrity or not.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka
#3

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True. But when did Nelly Furtado become the best person to play Elphaba in Wicked?
#4

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How true.

However, really, celebrities can be used well (I thought worked very well for Aida). And, they can keep shows open (whether thats a good or bad thing is debeateable). If they are used well (which they almost never are), and are good in the show they're in, then its fine with me. But 98% of the time, they stink. And its very upsetting to see shows butchered by famous people. re: How About No Stunt Casting?

I too am very sick, though, of people saying, "Wouldn't so and so be great on Broadway?" I mean, sheesh, we definately don't need any MORE stunt casting then we already have!
"I mean, how many of us could honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building?"
#6

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That's mostly what I was ranting about! Stunt casting is abd enough as it is. Why encourage it by saying, "So and so should be in a show."
#7

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"But 98% of the time, they stink."

Not to be argumentative. But can you give some "backup" to this (name names and shows) which constitutes a 98 percent "failure" rate?
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka
#8

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Well, I did not mean that to be a real, hard, solid statistic. However, the examples of good stunt casting to me seem to be vastly, vastly overshadowed by the disasters.

Off the top of my head...

Bad stunt casting:
Joey Fatone in Rent
Melanie Brown in Rent
Drew Lachey in Rent
Joey Fatone in Little Shop of Horrors
Christy Carlson Romano in BATB
Vanessa Carlson in Into the Woods


Good stunt casting:
Frenchie Davis in Rent
Jai Rodriguez in Rent (this may or may not be an example of stunt casting, as he was in the show both before and after he was famous)
The R&B divas in Aida (though this could vary from diva to diva)
The Entire Cast of Spamalot

Okay, so, judging by the above, my statistic was waaaaaaay off. But cut me a break! I'm a fifteen year old... I've never taken a statistics class! Yet.
"I mean, how many of us could honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building?"
#9

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I could not agree with Craig more. Cast the best person for the job. NOT the person that will keep the show open at the risk of damaging the material's integrity.
[title of show] on Broadway. it's time. believe.
#10

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Vanessa Williams, not Carlton, was in "Into the Woods", and she was brilliant. And Jai was not stubt casting. He played Angel before "Queer Eye" was even a glimmer in Bravo's eye.
#11

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I think this definition of "stunt casting" is somewhat flawed. To me, stunt casting involves casting someone with a name that in no other way would be able to play the role, or if they were just bad. The only stunt casting I see are the ones that have failed. When casting works, how can it be called stunt casting? I call it good casting.
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#12

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I heard that WICKED has entered into a partnership with the UPN - the winner of the next America's Next Top Model competition will be the new Elphaba. That's just what I heard.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#14

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I heard that too. I think it's a good idea. And I've also heard that Versace is being hired to redesign Elphaba's costumes for thw einner.
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#15

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The cast of Spamalot is "stunt casting?" This discussion is over until you figure out how far off base that statement is and why. I'd like 500 words on the subject on my desk Monday Morning.
#16

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Well, there are also different opinions as to what constitutes something "working."

Loudasthehelliwant posted that the AIDA stunt casting worked, and I think it killed the show. The only one who could handle the show adequately was Deborah Cox. The other two - disastrous.
A work of art is an invitation to love.

Updated On: 2/26/05 at 09:15 PM

#18

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Speaking of black divas. Why didn't they ever pull Jennifer Holliday in to play Aida. Or Carol Channing. She's black.
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#19

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ha!

Wasn't Toni the one who cried ALL the time? And I'm sorry - the keys didn't need to be changed. She shouldn't have gotten the part if the music was going to have to be altered. That always bothered me to NO end.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#21

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What a skank.
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#22

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Well, I think it's okay to cry during that one. But she ALWAYS cried. *shakes head*
Deborah did this thing where she pointed all the time. If she spoke to Adam, she pointed at him. If she spoke about herself, she pointed at herself. If she talked about something, she pointed at it. Poor woman's arms were constantly failing about. You know, think of a line like the one from Aida to Radames: "Excuse me Captain, I have linen to wash."
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#23

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In my opinion, Maya was the only replacement who could even touch Heather.
#24

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Actually many "Stunt casting" performers that are named had plenty of theatre experience before they became what they are known for. I.E. Christy Carlson Romano was in Parade long before her show on the Disney channel.
Joey Fatone has done many theater productions in high school, and just because he was in a boyband does not make him inferior to the stage.

What about casting Sarah Jessica Parker,or Phylicia Rashaad? Is that a bad decision with stunt casting?

Stunt casting is a way to get people into the theatre. That is a good thing. If you don't like the performer, don't see the show.

And just to reiterate on the Nelly Furtado comment. She was never brought up as "the best person to play Elphaba". Someone just made a suggestion that it may be a good casting choice. If you disagree, fine. But, no matter what your opinion is, There will always be "stunt casting"
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.

Updated On: 2/26/05 at 09:25 PM

#25

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Acting-wise MEF, but not so much vocally. Her vocals were comparatively pretty weak. Not nearly as much power behind her voice as Heather had. Vocally, I'd say Deborah was the closest, much as I was against the fact that she was there.
A work of art is an invitation to love.

Updated On: 2/26/05 at 09:25 PM

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