How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
#1How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 1:07pm
While I would love the entire stage to be an aquarium, where the actors wear wetsuits and oxygen tanks... I doubt this will be the case.
I saw them swing from ropes and walk the back of the stage in Tarzan. I've seen people tap dance upside down in Mary Poppins. I saw them using puppets in Finding Nemo.
My question - does ANYONE know how the characters in Little Mermaid will "swim"?
Cages or wings - which do you prefer?
#2re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 1:10pm
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#2re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 1:12pm
So no expensive crazy special effects? It's Starlight Express with singing fish?
Boo!
Cages or wings - which do you prefer?
#3re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 1:18pmI hope they do it in a "flying" way, where it looks like they're actually going toward the surface.
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#4re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 1:20pm
They seem to have a love affair with long pieces of fabric as water (see: tarzan)
Maybe it'll be something like that.
Cages or wings - which do you prefer?
#5re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 1:34pmAt the Disney stage show in Orlando they used puppets for songs like Under the Sea. The stage was black and the performers wore all black, but the puppets were fluorescent so they appeared to "swim" on their own. I have no idea if a similar concept will transfer, but it did look pretty cool.
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#6re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 1:37pm
Yeah i did just see that show a month ago. But cmon man! This is Disney on Broadway!
Where's the spectacle!?
Cages or wings - which do you prefer?
#7re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 1:41pm
As another poster said, they are going to be using the "heely" shoes/skates to represent the underwater movement on stage.
I too would have liked to see it done in a way that is a bit more visually appeasing, but apparently Francesca Zambello said from the start "no water, no wires."
The search for a director was prolonged for such a significant amount of time because of most people's inability to come up with a functionable method of portraying the aquatic atmosphere. Considering Zambello was finally hired on the basis of her concept, I hope it works out for the best (although I just don't get it.)
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#8re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 1:43pm
Well at least the Broadway show won't be the Cliff's Notes version you get in Orlando!
My guess is that they'll use a mix of techniques. You can't just have Ariel sitting on a rock for the first half of the show. Still, those fish looked pretty cool "floating" around.
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#9re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 2:22pm
What I'm puzzled about is how the actors will manage to have a tail if they have to skate. Unless they divide the tail into two legs...Which is unthinkable. That would be beyond tacky.
I'm pretty disappointed that they aren't doing any wires. This is Little Mermaid! Can't they be bothered to go all out?
#10re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 2:23pm
I was thinking along the lines of heelies specially made for the costumes.... which probably means everyone is going to grow 3 inches.
I imagine they're going to do alot of lighting effects especially if they don't want to deal with wires or water. So a bunch of mirrors or reflective surfaces making that underwater apparence.
#11re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 2:24pm
Seriously! I mean there could be something so much more interesting.
Maybe they'll coast around on ramps and things to look crazier.
Time will tell, I suppose.
When does this open?
Cages or wings - which do you prefer?
#12re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 2:26pm
"I'm pretty disappointed that they aren't doing any wires. This is Little Mermaid! Can't they be bothered to go all out?"
Maybe they're aiming for an artistic (read: less obvious) approach, à la THE LION KING. Who knew headdresses could pass for lions?
Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
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Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
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Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
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#13re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 2:28pm
True - but look at tarzan. I mean it's special effects and they're flying, yes. But something as simple as the obvious metal clips hanging from everyone's waists - that was artistic. It was saying "we know you know these are wires... so here they are - suspend your own disbelief"
But, in all honesty, I guess there really IS no other way to simulate swinging for an entire production.
(though, to be fair, swimming MOSTLY happens in the first "act", so to speak).
Cages or wings - which do you prefer?
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#14re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 2:34pm
Well if they suspended their disbelief for Tarzan belt clips, why can't they suspend they're disbelief for NOT ACTUALLY floating????????
I for one am estatic they're not flying on cables, I think inventive set, lighting and costumes can create a cool effect without the only effect being the effect. EDIT; Of course, this would mean they are putting the emphasis on the story, which for Disney could be a serious hazard. God, I hope this one is good.
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Updated On: 1/26/07 at 02:34 PM
#15re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 2:48pm
My guess is they'll do it somewhat like the Red Fish, Blue Fish thing from Seussical.
The Cathy Rigby touring production used a lot of flying equipment.
I'm rather sad that it's The Little Mermaid that's being done. I think Sleeping Beauty would make a much more interesting stage spectacle and would be must as big a challenge. Think about the sequence where the thorns surround the castle and Malificent turns into a dragon. That, I'd pay to see onstage.
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#16re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 2:53pmIt is either going to look really cool...or awful.
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#17re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 3:04pmExactly. Well if they arent flying around the stage, we BETTER get a huge Ursula that takes the roof off the theater for the finale :)
Cages or wings - which do you prefer?
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#18re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 3:18pmi think it will be like tarzan in the beginning when the {spoiler, not really} boat crashes and tarzan's parents go flying of the boat
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#19re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 3:51pm
Yep, I believe they're going to use a HECK of a LOT of underwater projections.
How else can you do it?
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#20re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 4:21pmLots and lots of blue fabric?
Cages or wings - which do you prefer?
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#21re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 9:53pmI laughed when I saw Lizzie post the heelys.. but you mean they are actually using them? Oh lordy.
#22re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 11:00pm
I saw a condensed version of the show at Disney Tokyo Sea last month in the Mermaid Lagoon.
Ariel was attached to this swing bar that allowed her to "swim." I doubt that the actress could do it for a full performance eight times a week, though. It would be quite grueling.
Flounder was a...hmm. It was a contraption that someone peddled like a car, and it also was attached to the ceiling, so whenever the person peddled, Flounder swam around. It's hard to describe.
Sebastian reminded me of the [i]Avenue Q[/i] set-up or of Zazu in [i]The Lion King[/i] because there was a man in red standing behind the Sebastian puppet and making him move/sing/etc. That seemed like a very likely way to portray him (and possibly Flounder) when the show goes to Broadway.
My friend took a couple of pictures, but my camera wasn't able to capture anything w/o the flash. I'll ask her for pics if anyone is curious.
There was a gorgeous "dance" sequence during...I believe it was "Kiss the Girl," where a woman in white did tumbling tricks from a wire while someone was on the ground. It was beautiful.
I can't wait to see what happens for real! I was thinking about going home in August for a visit, but I should seriously wait until December because then I can see TLM and Young Frankenstein.
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#23re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 11:05pmWhere did this heelys rumor come from? I think that it just started as a post on some thread and everyone took it seriously. If it has been printed anywhere can someone show me where, because otherwise this is ridiculous!
#24re: How do they swim in the Little Mermaid?
Posted: 1/26/07 at 11:09pm
JustinRZB, with both Francesca Zambello and George Tsypin known for their love of grandiose and awe-inspiring visuals, don't expect anything less than a large scale spectacle that will be stunning to behold (within the boundaries of logic, of course.)
Neddy, while I agree that there hasn't been any confirmation of the skate concept, Disney has repeatedly said that flying and actual water will not be apart of the staging of the show. Thomas Schumacher said in the past, "It's not an aquatic show. There won't be any swimming. We didn't have animals walking on all four in The Lion King."
He reitterated this same statement recently, confirming that Zambello was insitent on a "no water, no wires" rule from the get go, and went as far as to say that the underwater issue will be dealt with in a "very low tech way." What else do you think they could do?
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Updated On: 1/26/07 at 11:09 PM
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