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#27

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Well, everybody's got the right to feel however they want about this show, but I love it. Mediocre Sondheim is better than anything Shwartz. The book is fantastically intriguing and you have to be heartless to not feel for these people. Who doesn't want to be noticed? They all had their reasons for doing what they did, but it's absolutely fascinating to see it the other way around. Instead of seeing them as murderers (or indeed, assassins) we get to see them as people. It's chilling. And I wouldn't really call this score mediocre at all. "Unworthy of Your Love" is one of the coolest duets ever and "Another National Anthem", and "Booth's Soliloquy" are just pure theatrical genius. But, as ushual I pretty much stand alone in this.
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Assassins has sparked my interest and I want to know how a story can be made from all those people, but today gave me second thoughts. In history we watched the movie of JFK being assassinated in his car, and I remember thinking to myself shortly after, "Do I really want to see a musical about people who would things like this?"

Yes, Broadway is constantly on my mind as you can tell. I don't know if I would enjoy something like Assassins, especially as someone of the younger generation. I'll have to wait for some reviews.
#29

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"Do I really want to see a musical about people who would things like this?"

But, they're still PEOPLE. That's what the musical is trying to say.
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But that's precisely where the musical fails, CATNY. As PEOPLE, the characters are never more than rudimentary and one-dimensional and the audience is never pulled into anyone's story or made to, at the very least, understand in any meaningful way. The revue format virtually precludes any kind of identification by the audience. Perhaps if the authors had tracked the story of one individual, the musical would have made its point with greater emotional and dramatic power, like Sweeney Todd. Can you honestly and truthfully say you cared and were emotionally invested and involved in these people? And, further more, that you were JUSTIFIED in doing so? Instead, these repellant abd disturbed "characters" are presented, for the most part, in short scenes or songs in which the audience is supposed to find them eccentric and oh-so-funny-and-amusing. No wonder the audience doesn't know how to react.

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I'm weighing in with MusicMan on this one.

Sondheim is brilliant. Leaps years ahead of nearly everyone else writing for the theatre today. That said, ASSASSINS is my least favorite of all the Sondheim shows, as I posted back in October. I rarely listen to it. Nothing in the score has ever engaged me. While one can symphathize with warped minds (there by the grace of God...)I don't find them something to sing about. I can think of other ways of spending $100.

"Limited Run" is a producer's euphemism for "we-know-there-is-no-audience-for-this-show-but-this-saves-face-when-we-stop-selling-tickets."

Updated On: 4/1/04 at 10:11 PM

#33

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i am intrieged (sp?) by it, as i am by anything sodheim does.
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intrigued
#35

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My hope is that it'll be received very well. My gut tells me it won't because it'll still be considered controversial and some may even say it's in poor taste. However, I am psyched that it's coming to Broadway and am only bummed that my tickets aren't until June. I love the concept and Booth's song to open the show is one of my all-time favorite numbers.

Anyway, just a few thoughts from a newbie.

-b
Every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around...
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Jose... Well, that was an interesting post. But that is NOT the reason that it is a limited run. Roundabout has been committed over the last few years of bringing shows to broadway, hence they run them as limited run shows. Asssassins was extended BEFORE it even opened BECAUSE it was selling out so much. So, as for not having an audience its selling out.

On a second note, I saw the show on sat, and it was full of subscribers, most being much older. IN the original production much of the audience walked out. NOT ONE PERSON WALKED OUT OF THE SHOW. The show is amazing, yes it is Sondheim's weakest score but with such a complex show, lyrics and book, a stronger score would completely take away from the point of the show.

PLEASE BEFORE YOU BASH THE SHOW GO SEE IT SO YOU HAVE SOME GROUND TO STAND ON! It's definitely worth the cost!
"Judy Garland, Jimmy Dean, You tragedy Queen" ~ Taboo

"Watching a frat boy realize just what he put his d!ck in...ex's getting std's...schadenfruede" ~ Ave Q

"when dangers near, exploit their fear" ~ Reefer Madness the Musical
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I found the book and score for Assassins to be far more engaging, entertaining, and stimulating than Follies or Bounce.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
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mightn't the fact that a lot of you don't like the score have to do with the fact that (next to EVERYBODY'S GOT THE RIGHT and UNWORTHY OF YOUR LOVE) these songs only make sense in strict context...?
Vary My Days.
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This has probably been discussed. But will the revival have a cast recording made?
BSoBW2: I punched Sondheim in the face after I saw Wicked and said, "Why couldn't you write like that!?"
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I sure the hell hope so!!! If they do I imagine it being done by nonesuch records. The same label that did the Into The Woods revival and Stephen Sondheim's Frogs/Evening Primrose compilation. It should be very flashy, have lots of production photos and be about 75 minutes long with more dialogue than the original recording and include the song "Something Just Broke" which was not on the original. I'm fantasizing already....

Updated On: 4/6/04 at 10:24 PM

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Umgeoboy, if you read my post clearly you would have understood that I did not "bash" the show as mounted by Roundabout. I expressed my dislike for the material in general and stated my choice not to spend my money on a ticket.

I know the show from its original run. I still don't care for it.

Yes, I know everything at the Roundabout is a limited run.

Cheers.

Yours for a better Broadway!

Updated On: 4/6/04 at 11:20 PM

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Jose, I went back and reread your original post. And your words were that limited run is producers saying that there is no audience...yet in your second post you say all of roundabout shows are limited run, therefore those two sentences do not go together at all. The show is a limited run because that is how roundabout does ALL of their productions. Yes, this show has a huge fan base which is why it has been extended before it even opened in previews to be exact!

I understand you are not a fan of the concept of the show and the bashing of the show before seeing it was a general statement, not directed at you. Many people on message boards, and in the press have bashed teh concept of the show before they have even seen it. I understand that it is a controversial issue and it does take a lot to get past the idea that the show glorifies assassins. But I would request (again not aimed at you Jose) that those who are bashing the show WITHOUT ever having seen it to stop. It is a show that deserves to be on broadway and definitely has a huge following behind it.
"Judy Garland, Jimmy Dean, You tragedy Queen" ~ Taboo

"Watching a frat boy realize just what he put his d!ck in...ex's getting std's...schadenfruede" ~ Ave Q

"when dangers near, exploit their fear" ~ Reefer Madness the Musical

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