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Into the Woods question

Into the Woods question

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edenespinosalover
#0Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 4:17pm

For the 2002 revival of "Into the Woods", why did they decide to have two wolves?!

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munkustrap178
#1re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 4:18pm

Because it's pointless, unnecessary, and different from the original. Like the entire production.


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#2re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 4:20pm

Because they couldn't leave well enough alone.


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Actinggbugg474
#3re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 4:22pm

Yeah, I've always wondered the same thing. How did they work out the whole two wolves thing? Can someone give a brief synopsis of the new "2 wolves" storyline??

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CATSNYrevival
#4re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 4:25pm

no.

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FOAnatic
#5re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 4:25pm

This is what happens when you have the same man who directed the original production also direct the revival. I love ITW but I think that's where the show failed. It should have had a brand new director with some fresh ideas on how to do the show in a new way but retain it's sincerity. I have a feeling Lapine said to himself: "Hmmm...What small changes can I make to the show so it's technically a revival?"


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Jazzysuite82
#6re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 4:57pm

I thought the 2 wolf thing happened in teh original production out in San Fran, but then the idea got scraped. Maybe Lapine wanted to try it this time around.

#7re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 5:02pm

Why did they add the character Sally to the revival of YAGMCB?

Plum
#8re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 5:03pm

I think that was originally Peppermint Patty, but she wasn't a very good character. Or something. Maybe they wanted to make the show more gender-balanced?

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CapnHook
#9re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 5:04pm

I think it was because there were two Princes. One was underused.


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#10re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 5:05pm

There's no prince in YAGMCB

Mythus
#11re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 5:38pm

Capn is referring to Into the Woods, Monroe.

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ShbrtAlley44
#12re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 5:50pm

The first wolf (who later became Cinderella's Prince) started the song, and then during the music break, three little pigs came out, followed by the second wolf (Rapunzel's Prince). The wolves admired each other's prey, sang, howled, and went on their way.

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#13re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 7:11pm

For the most part Sally is Peppermint Patty from the original but some of the lines etc. have been changed being that Sally is Charlie's brother. I've seen it both ways; doesn't make much of a difference to me I like the show.


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Jon
#14re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 9:36pm

The original YAGMCB had "Patty" - NOT "Peppermint Patty". The character of "Peppermint Patty" did not exist in the comic strips until the 1970's - after YAGMCB was written. The character of "Patty" - a cute girl with a reddish pageboy haircut and a plaid dress - was in the very first Peanuts strip in the mid-1950's. She was usually with her best Friend Violet, who had black hair. The first strip featured Paty, Violet, and Charlie Brown. The character of Lucy, Linus (who started as a baby) and Snoopy (who started as a puppy who's thought balloons contained nothing more than question marks and exclamation points) all came along later in the first year of the strip's existence. Sally Brown first appeared in the 1960's, Peppermint Patty in the early 70's, and Marcy (Peppermint Patty's future lesbian life partner) in the late 70's.

The original Patty and Violet are featured in the first TV special, "A Charlie Brown Christmas". They were phased out a few years later.

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BwayBaby18
#15re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 10:14pm

In the original concept there were 2 wolves and the 3 little pigs.... i believe..... wasn't it supose to be foreshadowing... the 2 wolves on the prowl / 2 princes on the prowl.......

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kangaroo
#16re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 11:05pm

someone got it... I think it was to use both princes more.

And I know that there is something on broadway.com {videos} that answers this question. I think one of the wolves explains why they decided to go with two wolves for the revival... maybe?
Check the link.....................
This should be the right link


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edenespinosalover
#17re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 3/31/05 at 11:34pm

Well they discuss the issue of the two wolves, but they say why they made the decision to have two. Hmmmm

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BlueWizard
#18re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 4/1/05 at 8:11pm

I just saw the video (thanks, btw). Does anyone else think Vanessa Williams' delivery of the Witch's Rap in the clip is AWFUL?? Was her performance in the revival like this? It's like her Witch stepped off of a Disney parade float.


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perfusion
#19re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 4/1/05 at 8:22pm

I think Vanessa made a wonderful Witch.I enjoyed her very much,she wasn't Bernadette but she did a good job.


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BwayBaby18
#20re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 4/1/05 at 8:34pm

I thought Vanessa was wonderful.... BUT i didn't like the revivals take on the which.... they made her too "modern" i think.... But Vanessa's singing voice was heaven ( at least during closing week it was) and the rap was HILARIOUS...... I really do think she did an awsome job....

And Bernadette did just as well in the origional, but then again her's was a diffrent take..... and i preffer the origional concept of the witch.....

so Yes Vanessa Williams was great in the role...

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#21re: Into the Woods question
Posted: 4/1/05 at 8:51pm

My opinion is, they added the other wolf to take away the sexual innuendo like in the original. Originally the wolf, played by Cinderella's prince, represented animal lust (like the prince represented human lust) so they added another wolf so that they would appear to be hungry animals wanting food instead of one lusting after Red Riding Hood.


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