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#26

re: Just saw The Frogs

Oh, no I did not get the message about PASSION. Are you talking about something regarding the musical PASSION? I saw FORUM and though it was funny and had some catchy tunes in it, but other Sondheim shows I go to I feel I'm hearing that "talking singing" and I just seem to have trouble with that. Besides, I'm a rock'n'roll fan by nature so you have a good a chance of getting me to like Sondheim as you would someone who listens to no theatre period.
#27

re: Just saw The Frogs

Fine, spider, hand over the money.
#28

re: Just saw The Frogs

I was just saying, if you like ASPECTS OF LOVE, you will probably like PASSION. That is what got me liking Sondheim. And Donna Murphy is in the original cast recording. Scrumptious
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2
#29

re: Just saw The Frogs

I PM'd you a ten dollar bill. I want my change now. Don't go stiffen me.
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2
#30

re: Just saw The Frogs

Spider, that is so interesting you say that because me and many others believe that ASPECTS OF LOVE is the most Sondheim-like Lloyd Webber show. I like the main songs in ASPECTS but all the music in between is that "talking singing" that I don't like. It was a departure for Lloyd Webber I know like he was saying "I can write more than just rock songs."
#31

re: Just saw The Frogs

hey J i repeat GODFATHER is great, but to see the source of the Brando mystique, watch STREETCAR. And it's a damn fine film, anyway...
Will: They don't give out awards for helping people be gay... unless you count the Tonys. "I guarantee that we'll have tough times. I guarantee that at some point one or both of us will want to get out. But I also guarantee that if I don't ask you to be mine, I'll regret it for the rest of my life..."
#32

re: Just saw The Frogs

Julia Roberts? Dear God, someone pass me a barfbag.

I don't know enough Sondheim to truly have a strong opinion of him (I love some of his shows, dislike others, haven't experienced a whole bunch more), but I do think SUNDAY IN THE PARK WITH GEORGE is a beautiful work.
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#33

re: Just saw The Frogs

I have been meaning to see STREETCAR and hopefully will soon.
#34

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J.....to each his own
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2
#35

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I have trouble finding "beautiful" music in Sondheim's scores. "Send In The Clows" is a masterpiece and we all know that. Most composes have one or two. I was only able to recall a handfull other songs of Sondheims that I though we beautiful as well though. Most of the time he's doing the very complex character songs that are less melodic instead of just a simple beautiful tune like "Clowns." I think I am a sucker for catchy tunes.
#36

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J, I thought I read somewhere on the boards that you live on the West Coast. Is there a tour of BOMBAY playing out there? I ask because I'll be in LA next week, and it'd be nice to see something while I'm there.
"That duck was a sexual toy, and it was on display!" -- an unknown Nashville town leader
#37

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sorry spider. I was just trying to give a rational analysis. I guess you like every note of ASPECTS?
#38

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No, I live in NYC. This os the only board I post on on this site and I am not familiar with any BOMBAY DREAMS tour.
#39

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No. Actually ASPECTS OF LOVE is far in the Fav's of Andrew Lloyd Webber list. You are on silly person you know that? Why aren't there more people in the world like you?
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2
#40

re: Just saw The Frogs

J --

BroadwayGirl's suggestion that you listen to a few of Sondheim's OBCs is an excellent one. Contrary to popular belief, Sondheim has written a great deal of melodic, non-intellectual, fun, funny, non-"serious" catchy music in his career. That one needs to be a music theory major to understand him is a myth. Yes, there's deep and profound stuff in his scores and the deeper one goes into them, the more rewards one finds -- his gift is unique and the more one listens, the more one appreciates him. But, the scores from "Company" or "Follies" for example are "song-scores" --lots of interesting, fun, melodic music, in the form of simple, accessible character songs that will allow you to appreciate his talent without forcing you to have to connect a lot of dots.

If you can (depending on your local video store) rent the DVD documentaries of the filming of the original cast album of "Company" and the all-star concert of "Follies." You'll get excerpts of the music and the story of the shows, along with some fun, behind the scenes drama. If you can't find those DVDs, get your hands on the OBCs of both -- perhaps you'll understand why he is so revered. If you like them, perhaps they'll provide a window into some of his later, more complex work.

I know for me, many years ago, listening, I think, to the OBC of "Sunday In the Park" it was as if a lightbulb came on (and it's never turned off). All the dots connected and Sondheim no longer seemed complex or intellectual, just a great and brilliant storyteller through music. I hope you get that revelation someday.
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney

Updated On: 7/7/04 at 02:13 AM

#42

re: Just saw The Frogs

>> But, the scores from "Company" or "Follies" for example are "song-scores" --lots of interesting, fun, melodic music, in the form of simple, accessible character songs that will allow you to appreciate his talent without forcing you to have to connect a lot of dots

And disregard the plotline but just listen to MERRILY WE ROLL ALONG, preferably the OBC. There are some wonderfully charming songs in that score: "Bobby and Jackie and Jack" and "Franklin Shepard, Inc." and "Rich and Happy".
"That duck was a sexual toy, and it was on display!" -- an unknown Nashville town leader
#43

re: Just saw The Frogs

I almost mentioned that one too. A wonderful score.
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney
#44

re: Just saw The Frogs

I knew it, she took my ten dollars and ran off with it.
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2
#45

re: Just saw The Frogs

spider, i guess you mean silly in a good way?

margo, thank. i did watch tht DVDs od SUNDAY with my Sondheim-worshiping friend and remember there being a lot of the not-very-pretty music but I hear a song called "Sunday" which was an eye-epener for me because I thought it was beautiful. But then on the second act it went back to that weird non-musical sounding music.
#46

re: Just saw The Frogs

Well, spidey, I saw nothing in my PM box. No change for you.
#47

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The message board dwarf strikes again. My life savings, gone.
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2
#48

re: Just saw The Frogs

I wouldn't START with "Sunday." It's an amazing score, but I don't think most people can even begin to appreciate it in one or two listens. It's actually incredibly melodic and uses a small handful of themes throughout the score and those themes interweave throughout each song, but -- my god, there are so many layers to it, I can understand it being a bit off-putting to someone at first.

Go for Company, Follies and Merrily -- they are each completely accessible and beautiful (and funny).
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney
#49

re: Just saw The Frogs

hehe. What can I buy with ten dollars?
#50

re: Just saw The Frogs

Yeah, I don't like SUNDAY. Probably because Mandy Patinkin is in it. Maybe not. Nope, I think that is the reason. Company is good though.
"They're eating her and then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!" -Troll 2

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