#28
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:27pm
I hated the ending of the movie. Prefer the original off Broadway production the best.
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#29
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:28pm
The original movie version was black and white, I think...and if not, oops.
The original wasn't a musical though.
Frank Oz changed the ending of the movie to make it happy...
Oh, well...
The original wasn't a musical though.
Frank Oz changed the ending of the movie to make it happy...
Oh, well...
#30
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:32pm
To clarify the chronology:
Original Film (Black & white, non-musical) (1960)
Off Broadway Musical (1982)
Film (Remake, color, musical)(1986)
Broadway "revival" (2003)
Original Film (Black & white, non-musical) (1960)
Off Broadway Musical (1982)
Film (Remake, color, musical)(1986)
Broadway "revival" (2003)
#31
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:35pm
I love both the movie (minus the Disney-like ending) and the revival (minus Kerry being miscast), but I really, really loved the tour w/ Anthony and Tari.
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#32
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:37pm
Muchas gracias. I love this board, I don't know where else I could get these things cleared up. Someone around here always knows the answer to my question.
#33
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:40pm
i KNEW it was Black and White... I saw stills from it somewhere....
I think the revival has that 60's, Frank-Oz-movie feeling....
I think the revival has that 60's, Frank-Oz-movie feeling....
#34
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:41pm
I adored the show off-Broadway in the 80s when it was at the Orpheum -- Ellen Greene was absolutely brilliant. I liked the movie OK, though it lacked some of the charm, grittiness and off-beat humor of the original stage production (it just wasn't as funny, though I did enjoy Levi Stubbs and his "Mean Green Mother From Outer Space").
I was very disappointed by the revival. It felt plastic, low energy and uninspired -- nothing near what LSOH can be when cast and directed properly. The space destroyed the intimacy of the show and Kerry Butler had no idea what she was doing. I even felt (and some may disagree) that the urchins were underpowered vocally (where did they find them? There are literally HUNDREDS of better black female singers out there). Bottom line, the show belongs off-Broadway in a 300 seat house, not on Broadway where it loses too much of its innate charm.
I was very disappointed by the revival. It felt plastic, low energy and uninspired -- nothing near what LSOH can be when cast and directed properly. The space destroyed the intimacy of the show and Kerry Butler had no idea what she was doing. I even felt (and some may disagree) that the urchins were underpowered vocally (where did they find them? There are literally HUNDREDS of better black female singers out there). Bottom line, the show belongs off-Broadway in a 300 seat house, not on Broadway where it loses too much of its innate charm.
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#35
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:42pm
Margo, or anyone, did the original off-bway show also feature audrey II coming out into the audience...?
When I saw it, some little girl ran out crying...
When I saw it, some little girl ran out crying...
#36
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:43pm
And let's not forget Jerry Zak's lack of talent...
And yes, the original had the plant "eat" the audience.
And yes, the original had the plant "eat" the audience.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#37
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:45pm
Well, Douglas, Rob, and Hunter SURE made up for Kerry....her acting was good very Hairspray-ish (for obvious reasons)...her singing was OK...but....
#38
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:48pm
I disagree with what many have said---I felt that Kerry was the revival's strongest suit. Hunter was so-so, Rob was terrible, and Douglas was mediocre. Kerry blew me away. I would have loved to have seen what Alice would have done with the role.
I saw the original in my early teens, and fell in love with Ellen Greene. I wanted to marry her. I also loved Faith Prince when she took over.
I was glad that they brought Ellen back for the movie, instead of giving the part to a bigger star. It was OK. I bought the DVD when it came out, but only watched it once.
I saw the original in my early teens, and fell in love with Ellen Greene. I wanted to marry her. I also loved Faith Prince when she took over.
I was glad that they brought Ellen back for the movie, instead of giving the part to a bigger star. It was OK. I bought the DVD when it came out, but only watched it once.
#39
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:50pm
mef, I'm surprised at you! KERRY?!?!?
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#42
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:54pm
He was so-so...
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#43
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:54pm
The off-Broadway show (which was also exceptional with the replacement cast -- Brad Moranz, Marsha Skaggs, Fyvush Finkel, Suzzanne Douglas, Tena Wilson, Melodee Savage -- a couple of years after it opened) ended with vines from the plant dropping from the ceiling into the audience throughout the theater at the end of the finale (hanging from the ceiling - not just falling into the audience) - very startling the first time you saw it!
Updated On: 2/16/05 at 03:54 PM
#44
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:57pm
Hunter just didn't do anything for me as Seymour. Yes, he has a wonderful singing voice, but I hated the way he acted the role. I felt like I was watching Rick Morianis.
#45
Posted: 2/16/05 at 4:13pm
As a person who has directed LSOH I did not like Zak's take on the show AT ALL.
That said I will now break down my thoughts by character:
-Hunter Foster was a great actor and an ok singer. I did not like the fact that he (or Zak) decided to keep Seymour nerdy at the end of "Suddenly Seymour". This is the moment where Audrey is supposed to see Seymour as a MAN not a geek.
-Kerry Butler did an ok job. All in all she is a terrific performer but Zak's direction and her take on the character just made Audrey look like a mentally challenged person. However, Kerry is a POWERHOUSE singer, but I do not feel like she stayed 100% in character while singing.
-Rob Bartlett=Hilarious! This man made me proud to be a fellow Mushnick. His mannerisms were great, his accent(and lack thereof) was great, and his singing was IN CHARACTER!
-Michael Leon Wooley has a great voice but at times wasn't, for lack of a better word, sultry enough. I believe Audrey II is a female at heart and it is her flirting with Seymour that truly leads him on his path to kill.
-The Urchins-I feel like they were good singers but that they weren't quite gritty enough.
-Alas I did not see Douglas Sills but Darren Ritchie did a fantastic job covering all of those roles. I have seen some...um...video of Douglas Sills' performance and I was most surprised to see that both of these men had completly different takes on their characters. This is one of my dream parts and both of these men helped me see what this role can do.
That said I will now break down my thoughts by character:
-Hunter Foster was a great actor and an ok singer. I did not like the fact that he (or Zak) decided to keep Seymour nerdy at the end of "Suddenly Seymour". This is the moment where Audrey is supposed to see Seymour as a MAN not a geek.
-Kerry Butler did an ok job. All in all she is a terrific performer but Zak's direction and her take on the character just made Audrey look like a mentally challenged person. However, Kerry is a POWERHOUSE singer, but I do not feel like she stayed 100% in character while singing.
-Rob Bartlett=Hilarious! This man made me proud to be a fellow Mushnick. His mannerisms were great, his accent(and lack thereof) was great, and his singing was IN CHARACTER!
-Michael Leon Wooley has a great voice but at times wasn't, for lack of a better word, sultry enough. I believe Audrey II is a female at heart and it is her flirting with Seymour that truly leads him on his path to kill.
-The Urchins-I feel like they were good singers but that they weren't quite gritty enough.
-Alas I did not see Douglas Sills but Darren Ritchie did a fantastic job covering all of those roles. I have seen some...um...video of Douglas Sills' performance and I was most surprised to see that both of these men had completly different takes on their characters. This is one of my dream parts and both of these men helped me see what this role can do.
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With a stone clutched in his hand
He was only a boy
But he knew someone must take a stand
There will always be a valley
Always mountains one must scale
There will always be perilous waters
Which someone must sail
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#46
Posted: 2/16/05 at 4:27pm
I just want to say that the movie LSOH is a classic, I think I've watched it more than any other movie, I can honestly say that I've been watching it my entire life!
I love Steve Martin's Dentist scene- one time when I went to the dentist I completely shocked the doctor by jumping out of my seat and singing the entire song. They always looked at me a bit funny after that, but I needed to get it out of my system. It was well worth it!
I love Steve Martin's Dentist scene- one time when I went to the dentist I completely shocked the doctor by jumping out of my seat and singing the entire song. They always looked at me a bit funny after that, but I needed to get it out of my system. It was well worth it!
#47
Posted: 2/16/05 at 4:28pm
bjivie: The three urchins sounded "white"??
Wow.
Maybe you're saying that because they were actually trained vocalists and weren't SCREAMING their vocal cords out of their throats. I thought they actually gave a bit of refreshing structure to their songs, where with other girls, you would have heard a cacophony of out-of-sync vocal gymnastics.
I don't like the Urchins on the original recording because their harmonies are too straight and they are very reserved in their singing. If anything, I would say that the ORIGINAL three Urchins sound MUCH more "white" than the revival Urchins. There is no soul in their vocals whatsoever!
Wow.
Maybe you're saying that because they were actually trained vocalists and weren't SCREAMING their vocal cords out of their throats. I thought they actually gave a bit of refreshing structure to their songs, where with other girls, you would have heard a cacophony of out-of-sync vocal gymnastics.
I don't like the Urchins on the original recording because their harmonies are too straight and they are very reserved in their singing. If anything, I would say that the ORIGINAL three Urchins sound MUCH more "white" than the revival Urchins. There is no soul in their vocals whatsoever!
Updated On: 2/16/05 at 04:28 PM
#48
Posted: 2/16/05 at 4:51pm
The revival was great. Probably the best revival of a show Ive ever seen.
The movie is good but the show was better.
The movie is good but the show was better.
#49
Posted: 2/16/05 at 7:01pm
Hunter foster is an awesome singer. If you say he isn't, than I think you are looking for WAY too much that doesn't exist.
He's also a great actor and, well, Rick Morranis IS the epitomy of Seymour.
Kerry did well with the acting, but the singing was just....AYAYAYAYAYAY
Rob WAS the man.
I loved the urchins, sorry.
Wooley did a great job as Twoey.
He's also a great actor and, well, Rick Morranis IS the epitomy of Seymour.
Kerry did well with the acting, but the singing was just....AYAYAYAYAYAY
Rob WAS the man.
I loved the urchins, sorry.
Wooley did a great job as Twoey.
#50
Posted: 2/16/05 at 7:05pm
wickedrocks - What other revivals have you seen?
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