Latebreaking RENT FILM CASTING NEWS- Page 22

[ajayspak]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 3:33pm

I've seen the OBC of Rent at least 30 times and no one has outshinned them with the exception of Kristen Lee Kelly as Maureen, much better than Idina and she was a gracious wonderful person to interact with than Idina who truly was a b**** and a snob. Also Gwen did much better than Freddie as Joanne. All of you anti-OBC for the film are on crack, the only one and i know ive seen almost all of them recently that look older is Daphne and honestly Marcy (her replacement) was also better in some ways. Unfortunately the show now which i just saw last nite again has Drew Lachey of 98 degrees playing Mark and he sucks, I remember the days of seeing Rent was like going to a concert with the OBC, dancing screaming and laughing audiences all Rent Heads, now the Broadway production has slowed down all the songs so they easier to understand and honestly the show does not shake the theatre as it used to, and honestly when Adam would do Roger the theatre did shake.

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 3:38pm

how true ajay

[thespian geek]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 3:40pm

I've been lurking on this thread, but now I'm stepping up to Idina's defence. Who are you to call her a bitch and a snob if you don't even know her personally?

Posted: 10/30/04 at 3:51pm

I've been lurking on this thread too--I've never seen the OBC, so I'm in no position to agree or disagree with you, but you don't need to so blantantly attack individuals.

Anyway... People keep claiming that the role of Mimi has already been cast... any names or anything confirmed yet?

[erinrebecca]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 4:31pm

Jaime Lee Kirchner as Mimi.

[ajayspak]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 5:55pm

Thanks for your support :) I met Anthony and Adam numerous times and they two of the coolest people I know.

[kates]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 5:58pm

I've only heard that Kirchner was auditioning, not that she had been cast yet, are there more recent updates? I saw Kirchner in Atlanta this summer and I just wasn't really impressed. But after seeing DRV as Mimi, I haven't really been impressed with any other Mimi...

[kates]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 5:58pm

sorry doubled accidently!

Updated On: 10/30/04 at 05:58 PM

[ajayspak]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:00pm

hey there,
I met Idina about 10 times and hung out with her at a bar with other obc cast members and its my opinion but I do personally know her and she was a whiner and a pain in the ass. Ask any other Rent Head from 96-97 and they would agree with me. And as i purused through this thread I saw alot people being anti-OBC in the film without ever seeing them live, the OBC recording was recorded very early and is not a good representative of what the show was with the OBC so please do not base anything on that recording. So i have the right to my opinion as you do yours? Just wondering have you ever seen the OBC cast live?

[stacey717]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:02pm

Okay, just got back home to see, thankfully, that the board isn't twenty million pages longer than when I left :) I think people are waiting for me...(but I'll have to leave again soon because we're going out to dinner, but I'll be here til then and right after)

Sooo...
I'm ready to debate, but once again, I will probably agree with you (Anthony and anyone else here) on many issues you want to persuade me on (Me='Social' Liberal, as I said before). Also, when it does come to economic issues to me the real issue is the human condition behind it and our inherent inability to be, well, ideal and create this ideal society that we dream of having. We strive to meet a certain goal (ie: communism is an excellent idea, but that's just it, it only works in theory and not in practice) but as humans we have difficulty in one way or another and usually screw it up for ourselves (in this repect sometimes I agree with Agent Smith of Matrixian fame, if you understand what I'm saying....) I love that the human race has a built in hope, but for some reason I can't shake off the natural tendency to be human and thus screw up anything and everything (which you'd all argue about my choice of political candidate and his job, but I'd argue for every last human, it's just human nature. It's like this: we want what we can't have and we can't have what we want; then once we get we want, we lose it or break it and then sit and complain to the person next to us about the whole ordeal. However, we still try and try over to repeat the situation with the hope that is already built inside of us--hoping each time for a better outcome that may or may not happen. (Sorry for that little ramble..I was feeling a bit low and Agent-Smith-like for a second there...sorry if that kinda seemed a harsh view of humans, but for some odd reason I just felt like Smith...)

Anyway, back to the subject...

Anthony, what did you mean by this statement, though?
"I just don't want to die, not yet. There's so much to be done... "

Who/what's going to kill you? Are you quoting something? (I'm really confused, sorry if this makes me look stupid but I'm confused as to what this response was a response to...)

"Stacey, I would not get angry with you for your political affiliation, but rather, the way you express it. There is no call to condescend and say that we all think that being President is easy or that world peace is simple or even possible."

Sorry a billion times over, I reacted to gut-ly and I didn't mean to sound condescending. If we were talking face to face in real life I'd never come of as such, but there's something about talking from the inner monologue in your head that makes you more abnormal than you would be. Basically, I'm just frustrated at the way people make fun or are intensely condescending towards myself because of my political ideas (As far as supporting Bush) at school and, well, everywhere else. I kinda of reflected that which is imparted upon me by friends (the entire school is like 99.9% for Kerry) and others before and I apologize. I guess I lost my cool, didn't I. It's like I acted as a mirror but I absorbed the attitude imparted on me that would later be reflected. Or something.

Sorry.


Edit: Meant to say this too...
Anthony, I hope you had fun getting eaten by a plant.
(And I don't mean it in a sarcastic or mean way or anything like that, I'm actually quite serious: I hope you had fun at the matinee today and all went well :) ) Updated On: 10/30/04 at 06:02 PM

[ajayspak]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:03pm

I respect your political opinion even though I disagree with wholeheartedly You are only 16 and have ALOT to learn about politics and im sure historical foreign policy, but WHY WHY WHY bring it up on this thread, there are plenty of other message boards where you can do this. Just stop before fights break out.

[thespian geek]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:09pm

ajay, if you'd read the previous pages, you'd realize Anthony actually wanted to debate with Stacey on their political views.

And just because you've hung out with Idina and other OBC members in a bar a few times doesn't mean you know her PERSONALLY. Besides, that was 8 years ago - she's probably changed since then.

[stacey717]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:20pm

"if you'd read the previous pages, you'd realize Anthony actually wanted to debate with Stacey on their political views."

Thanks for answering that for me. I actually initially did not want to debate but Rapp asked "why not?", to which my reply was exactly what you (ajspak) were saying about creating a warzone.
(And I like to think I'm not exactly a dummy when it comes to American History and the politics of America pre-its-creation 'til today. That is, I would like to think my 5 on the US History AP last year meant something towards my knowledge of American History and Politics.)
Please don't take the above statement wrong, either, I'm not being condescending or trying to come off that way, it just that just because I don't agree politically with you doesn't mean "I know nutzzing!" (to quote Colonel Klink, if any of you remeber Hogan's Heroes...).

*Big sigh as I realize how much of a long haul and me-bashing is in store...I'm gonna get nitpicked to death; everyone's gonna notice every miniscule mistake I could possibly make*
But I think I'm ready.

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:23pm

"Evlyn, how am I 'trying' to offend people? You were the one who got all defensive when I asked about the political views...how was I supposed to know?"

My god, learn to read before you respond young one, PLEASE. My statement was that "some people seem to WANT to be offended," which means that you unnecessarily responded with hostility to a post that was intended to inform you of Rapp's political views (while still qualifying it as 'not an effort to make things political' because this IS a thread about musical theather) rather than insult you. You chose to read it as an insult because you apparently like getting riled up by posts.

[amasis]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:28pm

I have no problem about it being talked about here - it's not my thread - but I want to point out that we've had many political discussions on the Off-Topic Board, and you might want to consider creating a thread there for politics. Most people clicking on 'Latebreaking RENT FILM CASTING NEWS' will probably not be expecting a discussion on abortion and terrorism. (And by the way, I strongly disagree with the argument that Bush is effective in his war against terrorism - but it's not what I'm posting about so I'll stop for now). No big deal -- just my 2 cents...

[ajayspak]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:28pm

LOL! That's all I can say

[stacey717]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:35pm

Oh yeah, I read the article FindingNamo linked on the post about a page back if that's important to someone (so you don't think I'm really ignorant and living in such a fantasy I won't even listen to the other side of the arguement or something). I actually did read it. Seemed more an essay/article, pretty lengthy and thorough.

And also again, "(And by the way, I strongly disagree with the argument that Bush is effective in his war against terrorism - but it's not what I'm posting about so I'll stop for now). No big deal -- just my 2 cents... " was my initial sentiment as well, but if someone requests a discussion (ie Mr. Rapp) I am prepared to, well, discuss.

"we've had many political discussions on the Off-Topic Board, and you might want to consider creating a thread there for politics"

And I was thinking about that too, considering how this thread is going... Updated On: 10/30/04 at 06:35 PM

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:37pm

Whiteboy, I guess who picks up nominations is contingent upon several things including the studio FYC ads, the performances, the performers' backgrounds in film (or whether they're breakout roles like Imelda Staunton's in "Vera Drake" or Keisha Castle-Hughes in "Whale Rider")and of course, how many actors and actresses who've been nominated in the past can legitimately be nominated again in order to maintain Oscar's prestige as THE award to garner. 2004 year is a year in which familiar faces like Meryl Streep, Liam Neeson, Javier Bardem, Laura Linney and Kate Winslet dominate the screen in prestige films. 2005 isn't looking to be the same kind of year unless a number of high-profile films suddenly go into production. If your performances are compelling and you're all pushed in the supporting actor category, I wouldn't be surprised if you, the person playing Angel and the person playing Collins all received nominations for a couple of critics' and press awards if not Oscars. I imagine that that's how it would work if the film is very similar to the show -- with the performers playing Mimi and Roger getting lead pushes, and everyone else being pushed supporting (though you could also be pushed lead if you sing as many major songs in the film as you do on stage).

And no, folks, it's not too soon to talk about this. Films are pushed for Oscars regardless of their critical reception. For instance, I Heart Huckabees has received terrible reviews while The Motorcycle Diaries is getting little box office, yet they're both being pushed in all categories.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:42pm

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Is not necessarily a bad thing, and I'd like to hop in because I live for awards season. (Not really. Well, kind of. Okay, definitely.)

Anthony's right in that the "flashier" role will get the most attention. Because of that, I think "Mark", "Roger" and "Mimi", and maybe "Angel" will be the front-runners, regardless of who has more Hollywood exposure under their belt. I think, getting into specifics, that if Jai plays "Angel" (I'm not saying there's any truth to the rumors. I'm just saying...), there's less chance he'll be nominated, because as unfair as the stereotype is, people will think he was typecast.

I think this film's best chances are right now at the Golden Globes because of the Comedy/Musical category distinction, but I think RENT will likely get nominated for best adaptated screenplay regardless.

Edited to add: Isn't Goblet of Fire released next fall too? *stricken* Who do I root for?

Updated On: 10/30/04 at 06:42 PM

[StateOfJade]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:55pm

Evelyn, I don't appriciate you talking down to me. I misread a post of yours, big deal. No harm done. You seem to think that you're in charge of this thread. And when I asked Anthony about his political views, I wasn't even expecting an answer, I was fooling around. And yes, this board is meant to be for musical theatre...that doesn't mean political talk is prohibited. It's ridiculous for you to judge me and say I enjoy getting 'riled up.' I suggest you not act as though you're superior to other people, and if certain posts really bother you, just ignore it, especially if you think I'm going to get riled up over it .

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:55pm

There's almost no chance that any Harry Potter film will be picking up tons of nominations. Voting bodies have already indicated that they're impressed with that material strictly for its visual power -- and with The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe arriving in theaters late next year, any Harry Potter film will end up under the radar.

Am I the only person who's also extremely excited about Rob Marshall's MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA and (to a lesser extent) THE PRODUCERS?

[amasis]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 6:56pm

And also again, "(And by the way, I strongly disagree with the argument that Bush is effective in his war against terrorism - but it's not what I'm posting about so I'll stop for now). No big deal -- just my 2 cents... " was my initial sentiment as well, but if someone requests a discussion (ie Mr. Rapp) I am prepared to, well, discuss.

I understand that, Stacey. I just didn't want to make a post where I suggest creating a separate thread, and *then* at the next sentence continue the threadjacking, that's all.

[EvelynNesbit1906]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 7:02pm

StateOfJade, do us all a favor and shut up. :) This is my thread. Technically, I am in charge of it.

[stacey717]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 7:07pm

"and...THE PRODUCERS? "

I for one am completely ecstatic as a Mel Brooks/ Producers (more the musical) fan. In fact, after I saw The Producers last March (with Lane/Broderick, consequently on Broderick's birthday) my love for broadway was officially resparked and I realized that directing for theatre, not just film (ie I want to do both), would be an incredible future career.
The fact that the film has a lot of its OBC as far as main characters is really great and I'm so happy for that fact. However, I'd rather see OBC-ers in the roles of Ulla and Franz, but I understand how they feel they need some sort of start power to draw more audiences. Roger Bart and Gary Beach thankfully are to be in the roles they originated (I love Roger and Carmen...)!

Again, I, for one, can't wait til it's made/released.

[StateOfJade]

Posted: 10/30/04 at 7:11pm

Right, another thing you need to learn that just becauase you started this thread, you are by no means in charge of what people say. Why don't you do YOURSELF a favor, and not bitch at people for stupid reasons? Thanks.