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#501

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 10:48am

501?

"Amasis, what can I say? Your knowledge and beautiful posts are amazing... *is proud* Come over here to the US please!"

Ah, well... actually some guy named Adam did all the hard work

, and the only thing I did was watched it and read it and wept. But I will get my ass back to the US - anything Her Majesty wants!

Updated On: 10/30/04 at 10:48 AM

#502

Evelyn, I know that individuals from around the world are members of the Academy. My comment was in response to your contention that Jesse would have the best chance for a nomination because of his Hollywood 'pedigree'. I'm not aware of any prejudice either but why would that matter if he did, indeed, HAVE such a pedigree. Unless, as I asked before, you are considering hollywood = television.

#503

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 10:51am

erinrebecca, your tone is way too hostile to even merit a serious response.

#504

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 11:13am

Oh please, Evelyn, stop taking yourself so seriously. Or is the rule here that no one is allowed to question your responses?

#505

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 11:19am

erinrebecca, the reason why you're wasting your energy demanding responses of me is that you've taken *yourself* so goddamn seriously that I don't have the energy to continue addressing your questioning why I think someone has a shot at an Oscar nomination. It is a waste of my time and yours for you to endlessly probe my positive remarks about the actors' Oscar potential, especially in a way that comes off as downright jaded and snide.

#506

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 12:04pm

Hey whiteboy, I so to-ho-ho-ho-tally agree with the problems in the ART production of Stone Cold Dead Serious. I don't think I have ever truly enjoyed an ART production, absolutely fabulous tech tho they always have. I figured maybe a contemporary playwright would be the tonic ART needed but I wanted to scratch my eyes out with those deadly transitions you mentioned. The woman who played the sister, however, fantastic. But no, the play was not served well.

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#507

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 12:04pm

I meant it so much I posted it twice.

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Updated On: 10/30/04 at 12:04 PM

#508

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 1:28pm

I'm gonna jump back in and ask a Nocturne question, though first I am going to say I really liked both it and Stone Cold, Dead Serious (but I've only read them so what visual connections I may have is only from the mind's eye...though sometimes that really can be enough if something is written very well...)

Anyway, for clarification of the structure of the play, the way the copy I have of it (I presume the only one you can buy) makes the play seem is that the son is the only character to speak, thus presenting the play as one character who speaks for himself and all others (in third person) while they actually do exist on stage (with other actors portraying them). At least this is what I can remember of it as of now (I can't seem to find my copy as my room's a mess but I read it about to months ago); is this true?

Thanks in advance :)

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Oh, and because this is America where everyone can have their own opinions I'm gonna say for the record, I'm *16*, *female*, from *NJ* and, OMG, yes, I support our president.
(While I do disagree on certain aspects such as gay marriage and abortion--Also in my opinion with much circumstantial moderation on abortion, though, but nobody truly knows when the mind and self consciousness first comes into being...I'd argue your earliest memories may be an indicator if you think about it.)
My uncle died on 9-11 (in one of the towers above the impact), just under 3 weeks before my bat-mitzvah (he was married to my mom's sister; I've always been close to this part of my family), and I'm very pleased that someone's doing something about an issue (terrorism) we've ignored for ever and ever. (We didn't really do anything after the Center was bombed in '93.)

-->And nobody respond to the political statement please, I respect everyone else's opinion (note: I didn't attack Kerry or any other Democrats) so please respect mine. Since you all have it, I like to think there's some freedom of speech leftover for me too.

Updated On: 10/30/04 at 01:28 PM

#509

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:00pm

Evlyn, how am I 'trying' to offend people? You were the one who got all defensive when I asked about the political views...how was I supposed to know?

"I really liked the show--Wish I saw Boy's Night...Am I allowed as I am not a boy anymore:)"-duffyny1

#510

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:13pm

Wow, a bit has happened around these parts since I last posted.

Evelyn -- regarding the whole Oscar thing, in my mind so much of it depends on the campaign the studio does on behalf of the film. There have been countless nominees who have never acted in a film before, and then of course, there have been countless nominees who have done tons of film work. I would *love* to see Jesse receive award consideration, which would make up for the shunning he got in 1996 from all the award groups, but it will be interesting to see if Angel will overshadow Collins once again. As you probably know, awards are often bestowed on people with the flashier or more noticeable roles, rather than the absolutely most outstanding performers. There are, of course, exceptions.

But overall I do agree with your assessment from a while back that Revolution (and whichever studio winds up distributing the film) will be putting their muscles behind Rent when it comes to awards and all that. The Golden Globes and the Academy have certainly shown a willingness to throw a lot of trophies at musicals in the last couple of years, so they're betting history will repeat itself. Of course, we shall see if that will bear out.

Stacey --

About Nocturne, the ART production differed from the originally written play by putting the other characters onstage, and even having them speak for themselves. But the way Adam wrote it, and the way he wants it to be performed, is to have only the Son onstage. It's so much more an expression of his isolation and loneliness and demonstrates that much more effectively his reliance on language alone to get him through his life.

And I'm not going to yell at you about supporting W, but why aren't you willing to have a debate about the issues?

And I am certainly sorry for your loss.

#511

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:26pm

Hmmm, Stacey, putting a strong opinion like that in your signature and then not wanting anyone to mention it is a bit, may I say, naive.

QM

'He really wasn't good as Fieyro. Is it just me or does he sort of come across as a pimp? Just...the hand motions I've seen him do and the attitude..not that Taye is a pimp.' - SallyBrown on Taye Diggs as Fiyero

Updated On: 10/30/04 at 02:26 PM

#512

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:34pm

Okay...my question for my fellow actor/activist Mr. Rapp (whom I adore more than silly string on Halloween):

Alan Keyes, Bill O'Reilly, Tammy Bruce, or death?

With Alan, you get the well-spoken nonsense. With O'Reilly you get the sexual fun. With Tammy Bruce you get the self-loathing lesbian. With death you get...the unknown.

"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'" -- unknown

#513

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:34pm

Stacey, no offense, but this is a total lie: "(We didn't really do anything after the Center was bombed in '93.)"

You can't really fight terrrorism when you run the country out of money.

Please read this article

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Updated On: 10/30/04 at 02:34 PM

#514

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:36pm

Touchme --

I actually think it might be interesting to debate Mr. O'Reilly, as long as he wasn't just shouting at me to shut up the whole time. He actually seems like a pretty sharp fellow. And I do love a good debate. I wouldn't have to worry about him coming on to me, either.

I just don't want to die, not yet. There's so much to be done...

#515

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:40pm

Thanks for replying about Nocturne it helps me visualize it better with two possibilities; it clears things up a bit. (Unfortunately at my school there's no directing class except for a section of Drama III, but I never had time in my schedule to take Drama I or II, or III as for this year, even though I wanted to, so any help from outide sources is appreciated. :))

And as for debating politics? I *am* totally up for it and have no problem with it (if you'd like I will debate it no problem, but keep in mind my views tend to be socially liberal and econiomically conservative so I'll agree with many on the board in respect to gay rights, abortion, enviornment, etc...).
The only thing I'd have against debating politics here is that it be me versus everyone else (which, come on, you *know* it would be). I know that's just the way things are in the entertainment world; it is what it is. It would be me versus everyone else posting on the boards, getting yelled at and slammed in every direction. Thus it would be cramming up board space because everyone wants thier chance to yell at the freak who supports the president, that sort of thing. (Politics can bring out the worst in people. From experience around this town and at school its very apparent that any discussion of politics is like chasing your own tail and you only end up running in circles.)
Again though, if you're up for a debate, I am willing to have one and it probably would be quite interesting, *but* there'd have to be a no yelling at/ personal attacks on a post-er rule, or something... (I don't want to build my own guillotine, please.)

One last note, my philosophy on loss/missed chances, etc. Without loss, life would be nothing so you gotta accept it and move on. If you stop and dwell or get caught up in the past there's no way to continue on into the future. That's just life, now isn't it. (And also, in the chain of events, everything that happens has an effect so if it hadn't happened that exact way you wouldn't be where/who you are today...)

Updated On: 10/30/04 at 02:40 PM

#516

In love?

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:46pm

"...You fell in love with Anthony? "

I fell in love with his ability to play diverse parts, not all actors can manage that and not all actors could perform in the heels that he wore! And I fell in love with Hedwig, will infatuation anyway.

"They said the war by now would all be over They said one day our land would be reborn But looking now at all that we have sacrificed There's nothing left but a world forever torn" Justin Murphy

#517

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:49pm

Yes, indeed. Bill O seems fairly smart...although, probably misguided. Well, that is, until he starts to scream at you and tell you to get out of his studio (like he did to Jeremy Glick). However, Janine Garofalo seemed to do well handling him the few times she's been on. It makes me wonder what makes the man tick, and what makes him respect someone.

As far as falling in love with Anthony, I don't know that love is what I would call it. However, who can resist the wooing power of good talent? Not me in this case, for sure.

"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'" -- unknown

Updated On: 10/30/04 at 02:49 PM

#518

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:52pm

*You have no idea how fast my heart is pounding now..I have so much to reply to.*

Okay, is it better I say we didn't do enough?

Yes, okay. We didn't do *enough* then. I don't blame the president for the actual 9-11 attack, like all of you probably do ("But he didn't acknowledge that sticky note that said...").

I know you all think being president is so easy all of you could do it in a snap and so much better than the current president that there'd already be reinstated world peace for everyone.

#519

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:56pm

That isn't and was never my signature, in case you didn't notice, which you didn't; it was used as a divider between my question to Anthony and something that was slightly off topic when I posted it. Is that a crime? I guess it must be, huh.

(recap: I am not naive--and that is not never was and never will be my signature)

*Note: I've really gotta go...I have to return a movie and pick up a new one for tomorrow as I was drafted to bring Rocky Horror to the little Halloween party (yay

*

I'll be back later for more slamming of me.

#520

deeeeeeeebates

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:57pm

Stacey --

I have to go to the theatre now, but I appreciate your willingness to debate. I promise not to yell at you or be rude or anything. But I will be very strong in my opinions and certainly try to persuade you to reconsider yours, as I expect you will do to me.

I do think it's a stretch to assume that we all think being president is easy. On the contrary, I think it's a near-impossible job. I just think it's a job that be performed so much more effectively in so many ways than the way W has performed it.

All right, that really is it, I need to go get eaten by a plant now.

Take care --

Anthony

#521

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 2:57pm

Whoa Stacey...no offense and no yelling, but I don't blame the president for the 9-11 attacks. Don't assume all Democrats (or even most) blame the terrorist attacks on Bush. Sure, there were things that could have been done, but there's no way I can blame an attack that killed thousands of people on Bush. That said, I do not believe that he did the right things in response. I was not a supporter of Bush before 9-11, and I'm not now.
I would also never say I could be president "in a snap." In fact, I think it would be hell to be the president. I do think, however, that there are many who could have done it better than he has.

Edit: How many people can end a post with "I have to go get eaten by a plant now?"

Why do we play with fire? Why do we run our fingers through the flame? Why do we leave our hands on the stove, although we know we're in for some pain? -tick...tick...BOOM!

Updated On: 10/30/04 at 02:57 PM

#522

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 3:03pm

Yep, there's nothing like makign friends at a BWW board is there (note: sarcasm).

I don't want to make enemies because of political reasons here, so I'm just gonna say that (and one thing to follow) before I run out the door (again, I'll be back later). Oh, and keep in mind, you're all debating with a 16 year old, not some leader of the national republican committee or something...

On the subject of Bill O'Reilly--what he did was wrong. Very Wrong. Morally wrong and rude. (Yes, the transcripts are at the smokinggun.com). I do not advocate such behavior...

ugh..gotta go now..bye til later

I'll be back...

#523

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 3:07pm

Stacey--
First, I have no problem with you as a person. In fact, one of my best friends is a fiscal Republican too, and though I disagree with her views on the economy, I love her to death.
SOOO...just know I'm not attacking you personally, and I'm sure you're a wonderful person. I mean, you're on the BWW message board!!

Why do we play with fire? Why do we run our fingers through the flame? Why do we leave our hands on the stove, although we know we're in for some pain? -tick...tick...BOOM!

#524

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 3:18pm

Stacey,
we all repsect your opinion, but WHY do you support him? because he says he is going after terrorists?? osama Bin laden was teh leader whoa ttacked us, and he is still at large and smug as ever. Irag/saddam have NO CONNECTION to anything that happened on 9/11. Bush and Cheney may say it is so, and then deny saying it, but Iraq had nothing tod od iwth it. The entire Iraq fiasco is a distraction..a HORRIBLE distraction gobne HORRIBLY wrong.. from finding the man who was REALLY behind the attacks.

Also, terrorism, no matter how much it has impacted you, is not enough of a reason to back a man like Bush. Just because they attacked us once doesn't mean they have tried toa ttack every week since. Yes, they will attampet.. and probably succeed in another attack at some point, but Bush tries to play it that now that they attacked once, they are trying to attack every week and he fends them off every time. Besides that, Bush's domestic policy can and WILL impact your life day to day just as much.. if not more.. than terrorism.

#525

Nocturne

Posted: 10/30/04 at 3:28pm

Stacey, I would not get angry with you for your political affiliation, but rather, the way you express it. There is no call to condescend and say that we all think that being President is easy or that world peace is simple or even possible.

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