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Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee

Yankeefan007
#25re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/28/06 at 10:47pm

So predecessors was a bad choice of word. Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa.

They haven't lived up to the standards that I expected from a cast of a high profile production.
Updated On: 10/28/06 at 10:47 PM

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StageManager2
#26re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/28/06 at 10:49pm

That's better. re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee

BTW: Did you strike your chest?


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bwayondabrain
#27re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/28/06 at 10:50pm

"Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa."
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anyways, yankee, thanks for the review! i hope (well, i know), the cast will improve by the time i see it

:)

BSoBW2
#28re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/28/06 at 10:51pm

If Enjolras is up on the barricade, waving his big old red flag, like the poster in front of the theatre, then it isn't quite Caird's fault. Updated On: 10/28/06 at 10:51 PM

Yankeefan007
#29re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/28/06 at 10:54pm

Re: Striking my chest - Sure.

BSOBW2 - I meant after he's killed. There was no emotional response, from myself, anyway, I can't speak for the crowd.

It's a well-staged show. It's very well put together. The cast is just emotionally absent. In my opinion, at least.

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#30re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/28/06 at 11:03pm

Yankeefan: I hope you got that reference.

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Yankeefan007
#31re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/28/06 at 11:10pm

I do...and I'm a Jew, so it's not really in the faith.
Updated On: 10/28/06 at 11:10 PM

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KQuill
#32re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 1:49am

What you said about Gary Beach being Roger Debris with an accent really bothers me. In my strong opinion, he totally found that character and it was different from his other roles. It was so different from Roger Debris. I will admit that a couple small little things he did were Debris-esque, but by and large, he completely found that character. His Thenardier was very distinct in both his voice and his body.

I disagree with other things you said, but that angered me.

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LizzieCurry
#33re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 1:53am

Two people have told me so far that he's "Roger DeBris as Thénardier"...


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KQuill
#34re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 1:59am

Well, what do you think Lizzie?

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WickedForever2
#35re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 1:59am

Not to bring up old wounds, but I thought the touring cast of this show, who I saw in the engagment prior to closing in St. Louis, was PHENOMENAL. Randal Keith owned Valjean, Robert Hunt was an insane Javert, Melissa Lyons broke my heart as Eponine, need I go on?? From the video on this site and others of that open rehearsal, tour cast members were better than these current ones... I also have to say the same thing about Wicked's tour, oh wait, Sho and Megan were on tour and they are Broadway actors, how silly of me.

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LizzieCurry
#36re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 2:04am

Well, what do you think Lizzie?

I haven't seen him.


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KQuill
#37re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 2:07am

Oh, well i suggest that you get on that! :)

Parks
#38re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 2:12am

I thought the Les Miz tour was incredible, but that's not always the case with all touring shows.

I understand where he/she's coming from. After watching an incredible, breath-taking performance, you don't usually hear people say things like, "Bring that person to the national tour!" You hear people say, "Bring that person to Broadway!" Generally, Broadway is where the best of the best (in most peoples' opinions) are. Not to say there aren't incredibly talented people in national tours--even those who are better than anyone you could find on Broadway--I mean, the Valjean in the tour when it closed (Randall Keith?) was absolutely amazing--best voice I have EVER heard. Not an exaggeration. My jaw dropped after his "Bring Him Home". I will never forget that performance.


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ken8631
#39re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 7:43am

I agree - the touring cast was much better, except for Eponine (Celia)- shes much better here..... Fantine was WAYYYYY better on the touring cast, she's horrible here.
Updated On: 10/29/06 at 07:43 AM

Yankeefan007
#40re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 8:46am

See? I'm not the only one.

And I never said that there was anything wrong with Gary's performance. Gary is so charismatic that he can get away with it. I saw nothing wrong with his characterization, he was one of the best in the show.

musicalsFan
#41re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 8:51am

You're the only "one" what?

You never saw the touring cast and proceeded to put them down anyway.

And now just because "ken8631" agrees with you, makes you right????

Oy, the logic.

Yankeefan007
#42re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 8:54am

I'm not the only one who feels that they weren't Broadway caliber. It doesn't make me right - it's only my opinion. There is no right or wrong when it comes to an opinion.

Just because you disagree with me, it doesn't mean that my opinion isn't valid.
Updated On: 10/29/06 at 08:54 AM

musicalsFan
#43re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 9:05am

You are not understanding what I am saying.

You say that they are not "Broadway caliber" and were more appropriate for a touring cast. YET you never saw the touring cast. How the heck would you know? You have NOTHING to compare against.

Parks
#44re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 9:12am

Obviously he didn't know that the touring company was very good. He was comparing it to touring shows in general. He didn't say that he was watching THE touring company, did he? He just said he felt like he was watching A touring company.


Just let it go--he didn't mean to insult the touring production of Les Miserables.


"If it walks like a Parks, if it wobbles like a Parks, then it's definitely fat and nobody loves it." --MA

Yankeefan007
#45re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 9:16am

It doesn't matter if I saw the touring cast or not. I said that they seemed like "A touring company" not "THE touring company." I've seen enough to know what a touring cast is like - there could be great ones and there could be horrible ones. Like any show, Broadway, off-Broadway, or tour, there are great casts and there are bad casts. Not everything is perfect. I wasn't blown away by this cast. But, again, it's the 6th performance. Don't go against my opinions when half the people posting haven't even seen it themselves.


Updated On: 10/29/06 at 09:16 AM

theminutepast
#46re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 9:18am

I think the point has been made everyone. Lay off.

Ciaron McCarthy
#47re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 12:36pm

Damn Yankee I understand what you are saying in regards to Broadway companies vs. touring companies and if these people want to pretend there is no difference than let them. True, some touring companies are incredible but we cannot deny they are often looked upon as the bastard children of the Broadway productions. Especially a show like Les Mis which has been touring since God was a boy.

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LizzieCurry
#48re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 12:38pm

Poor theminutepast.


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Albin
#49re: Les Miserables: 10/28 Matinee
Posted: 10/29/06 at 1:35pm

Since the show is being billed as a "special engagement" is it considered a revival and eligible for Tony awards?


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