Posted: 11/15/09 at 9:55pm
David Foster produced this track and this is his new protege, Griffith Frank. apparently. This is a POP COVER version of the song that will appear on the soundtrack along with a cover version of the classic 60s pop song "Quanda, Quanda, Quanda" performed by the Black Eyed Peas in addition to all the songs as done in the film.
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Updated On: 11/15/09 at 09:55 PM
Posted: 11/15/09 at 9:58pm
Posted: 11/15/09 at 10:11pm
Beautifully produced and performed.
And this is one hell of a good song, period.
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Posted: 11/16/09 at 12:59am
Posted: 11/29/09 at 10:44pm
This is one of the reasons I despise the "Hollywood" mentality. Instead of doing the material justice they opt for the almighty box office dollar and cast people who are inappropriate for the role. They wind up transposing the song to service the actor and not the character and wind up ruining the material.
I see film as a perfect opportunity to immortalize material. To capture it in it's best possible form for future generations. Now don't get me wrong I don't mean the film has to be an exact replica of the stage version but I do believe when it's adapted for the screen it should be done with a little more respect for the material.
Casting Kidman in this role who sings this song was just wrong. So wrong.
Posted: 11/29/09 at 10:51pm
I think Kidman's version is the most cool, chilling, sensual and sexual take on the song. I chose those words very carefully after much thought. AT FIRST I was unsure, but I realize this, along with Brian D'Arcy James version, gets at the truth in the song.
Benanti's version will always remain a vocal delight and the counterpoint is gorgeous, but Kidman gets to the very root, dare I say soul, of what the song is really about.
This is a great song and I was ready to hate Kidman, I really was. She was the one thing I was not looking forward to and I must admit that the first time I heard the entire soundtrack all the way through, this was the track, along with "My Husband Makes Movies" and "I Can't Make This Movie" that I feel reached an emotional level never equaled even in the show on stage. I have never felt the lyrics as much as in Kidman's take, either. You even have to admit the lyrics are usually lost with the original vocal line of this song, as Yeston himself points out.
Again, just my opinion and I get where you are coming from as a purist of the show. But the film is not the show and the film score has very little to do with the stage score.
Only 5 songs remain relatively unchanged from the stage show ("Guido's Song", "Be Italian", "Folies Bergere", "Unusual Way" and "My Husband Makes Movies") and of those 2 have substantial lyric changes.
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Posted: 11/29/09 at 10:59pm
The film score owes itself to it's stage incarnation because that is what it's based on. If it didn't then they would have tossed out every single song originally written and composed an entirely new score.
What you are hearing as sensual and cool and chilling I'm hearing as someone struggling with a song and just not cutting it.
Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Updated On: 11/29/09 at 10:59 PM
Posted: 11/29/09 at 11:17pm
I plan not to hear it until I see it in context with the movie.
Posted: 11/30/09 at 1:13am
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Posted: 11/30/09 at 1:21am
Stephanie is not in "Folies Bergere". There are back-up dancer/singers though.
"Cinema Italiano" has nothing to do with the "Trouble With Contini" patter contrapuntal verse in the original stage version. The point of the song is actually the exact opposite, praising his films for their originality versus the stage version's Stephanie calling him "the king of mediocrity, a second-rate philosopher who thinks that he is Socrates, etc."
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Updated On: 11/30/09 at 01:21 AM
Posted: 11/30/09 at 1:24am
So even if a 'better' singer was cast in the role, I don't think the song would have been given the musical treatment it is on stage. That's the price for adapting intimate musical (soprano) numbers for the art of film.
What Kidman brings to the role, outside of her skills as an actress is real Hollywood glamour. They (I believe) really needed a bonafide movie STAR in this role with an astute vulnerability - and thats what she delivers
Updated On: 11/30/09 at 01:24 AM
Posted: 11/30/09 at 1:26am
Posted: 11/30/09 at 1:30am
How do you think Catherine Zeta-Jones would have been in the role, if she actually accepted it?
Posted: 11/30/09 at 1:35am
Truth be told the role Jones was most suited for was Saraghina. No complaints there though as Fergie is fabulous in the part.
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Posted: 11/30/09 at 1:56am
I haven't seen the film yet, obviously, and can't quite comment on the quality.
Updated On: 11/30/09 at 01:56 AM
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Posted: 11/30/09 at 12:59pm
I hate the vocal tho.
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Posted: 11/30/09 at 1:14pm
I am a fan of some of the new material though, especially CINEMA ITALIANO although it's style is a little removed from what's interpreted in the rest of the score.
I also am very impressed with Penélope Cruz' take on A CALL FROM THE VATICAN. Fergie's vocals on BE ITALIAN blow all her predecessors out of the water and I am including Kathi Moss.
I am basing my opinion on the song itself not on the film as a whole. Before my point of view is taken out of context and skewed by others on this board I am not so much the "purist". I am all for re-interpretation, re-imagining just so long as the original material isn't done an injustice. I haven't seen the film and I am not in any way shape or form judging the film as a WHOLE. That would be ridiculous as I haven't seen the film as a whole yet. I am basing my opinion about this one song and this one song ONLY.
I feel I had to explain myself because there are some people on this board who are in a very bad habit of not reading a post in it's entirety and then misconstruing one's original intention/opinion.
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