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#75re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 1:53pm
Yes, I am serious WickedRentEder. To me, he put on a sad face and overdramatically sang it. It's the only time I HAVEN'T cried while watching that number.
I know quite a few perfectly average actors who could have done equally as well if not better. So what's so extraordinary about that?
The most emotional song in the movie? Perhaps, but not the most emotionally performed. At least not by Jesse. Why did it seem as though Maureen, Roger, Mimi, and Joanne were more riveted by Angel's death than Collins?
#76re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 1:54pmI think I agree that when people feel a character wasn't "enough" or was "too much" in any way, the fault generally lies with the director, not the actor. Sometimes it's a combination of the two, but unless you feel as though the actor was shooting for a particular emotion and just wasn't getting it, then it's the direction that's at fault, not the acting. Just putting it out there. Please don't throw things at me.
WhatDoINeedWithLove?
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/11/03
#77re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 1:58pm
Yes, I was being facetious about Pam, but she did make me tear up! Watch her when the DVD comes out! But yes, Rosario was AMAZING.
As for Jesse, just because he didn't shed any tears in the reprise of "I'll Cover You" does not mean there was no emotion. Jesse was brilliant in translating his character from stage to screen.
#78re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 2:05pm
Um. I never said he had to shed any tears. Sometimes the most effective drama is when somebody doesn't shed tears.
But, alas, that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about how inauthentic he was. And yes, not even remotely exaggerating, I think any average actor can do what he did.
WhatDoINeedWithLove?
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/11/03
#79re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 2:07pmUm. Okay. I think that your opinion is strange, but you're entitled to it.
#80re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 2:08pm
And I think yours is uneducated, but you're entitled to it.
WhatDoINeedWithLove?
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/11/03
#81re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 2:10pm
How is my feeling that Jesse was effective and engaging "uneducated?"
#82re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 2:16pm
Wow.
I guess that means I'm pretty uneducated too. Because I really didn't care much for Jesse from listening to the OBCR but after the movie I understood why he was chosen.
I thought his Reprise was more genuine then some of the ones I've seen onstage.
#83re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 2:17pm
Well, I'm going to respectfully disagree with you BwayGirl. I think Jesse did an amazing job and I think he conveyed the sadness you're supposed to after losing one's partner....him & Tracie Thoms got me!!!!
Dramatic_Irony
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/26/05
#84re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 2:37pm
"I think whatdoIneedwithlove was being facetious."
*sigh* I do have the tendancy to take everything far too literally.
I'm also going to have to disagree. Jesse's performance in 'I'll Cover You: Reprise' was one of the main reasons I think his acting was the best of all eight- and that's certainally saying something
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WhatDoINeedWithLove?
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/11/03
#86re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 2:45pm
Well, I thought the wink would hint at my being facetitious, because "I think that your opinion is strange, but you're entitled to it," is probably one of the most back-handed, bizarre way anyone has attempted to tell me "Well, to each his own." But I guess everyone took my comment a little too seriously.
At any rate, lucky for all the other average actors who could easily pull off exactly what Jesse did, they can too be thought extraordinary for doing next to nothing. :P
WhatDoINeedWithLove?
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/11/03
#87re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 2:47pm
Well, that means there is hope for you!
(note the wink)
#88re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 2:47pm
:x
Sorry!
And, Dramatic, don't feel bad. I take things literally also! :)
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#89re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 3:07pm
Personally, I thought Adam fared a lot better than most in the show, though I really think Idina came off the best of all. Taye was wasted. I agree with 107 about Jesse. Rosario did a decent job, though there's something about her Mimi that I didn't buy. I can't really put my finger on what it was. I thought Rapp was okay, but his character is so underdeveloped that he's less of a character and more of a device, which is a problem in a piece that's supposed to have such an emotional impact.
Who I really couldn't stand was Tracie Thoms. Ironically, I found her to be the stagiest of the performers. Perhaps I was never able to get over her the fact that she was all fidgety and her eyes were darting all over the place at the start of "SOL" while everyone is seemed to be in a different place.
As an ensemble, they were wildly uneven, and though people don't really agree who fared better than others, it's clear that that unevenness was apparent to most of the people on this thread.
#90re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 3:21pmReally? Interestingly, I was surprised at how even I found the performances to be. I wasn't disappointed by anyone's performance, but conversely nor was I overly impressed by one over the others. Taye and Anthony were given the least to work with, but did well with what they had. Rosario fared the best because she is obviously more used to the screen than the others, and she had a subtlety that seemed to be lacking in the other performances (although whether Mimi should be subtle is another story).
#91re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 3:55pmActually the wink was what made me think you were being rude.
RentBoy86
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/15/05
#92re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 4:02pmThe movie made me realize, is the part of Benny always so underwritten? I Never thought it was in the broadway musical, but now I'm sorta thinking it is. Larson does such a great job at developing all his other characters, hm.
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#93re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 4:07pm
He gets more face time on stage, as well as some sort of redemption.
I don't think any of the chracters are all that fleshed out on stage or on screen. They're pretty much archetypes, some with more depth than others.
I'd argue that Mimi and Roger have the most depth, while Mark and Angel have the least.
#94re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 4:15pmI agree, Bennys character does not get his small redemption that he does in the stage version. I'm hoping to see some of that stuff in the dvd, even if its in the deleted scenes section.
WhatDoINeedWithLove?
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/11/03
#95re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 4:16pmYeah, I was upset they cut the second part of "Goodbye Love" because I don't like Benny not getting any sort of redemption.
#96re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 4:22pmI mean I get they have to cut something, but I would have liked to see something, even if its just in dialogue.
Dramatic_Irony
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/26/05
#97re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 4:35pm
I think I just realized something....
The reason that Mark's character might seem so underdeveloped *in the play* is that the play is essentially his documentary. And, since he "hides in his work", and is sort of always on the outside, I think that's why he may seem 2-dimensional to some extent. It's up to us to form our own opinions about him. Hmmm. This really isn't making as much sense as it did in my head, so I'm going to ask anyone that understood what I was trying to get at it to try and make it more lucid.
The reason his character was under-developed in the movie was because of the cuts made in the second part of 'Goodbye Love' and 'Halloween.' Also, the beginning of the play, the part that should have come in-between Seasons of Love and Rent in the movie.
That is all- please return to your regularly schedualed programming
Thesbijean
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/9/04
#98re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 5:01pm
timote316
The Globes don't have an ensemble category either. It was probbaly for the SAG Awards.
#99re: New Rent 'For Your Consideration' Poster
Posted: 1/16/06 at 5:04pmRapp saved that movie
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