New YouTube etcRules: A Question — Page 2

In a theater you need common sense judgement.

When it comes to Youtube, you are asking posters to make educated guesses at issues of Law, something that I think most people will agree rarely dips more than a toe in the pool we call common sense.

It's not the same thing at all, Craig.

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Im not saying that I or anyone else would break the law willingly, but I think it is a lot to ask a poster to decide on the legality of a clip on youtube without knowing anything under what circumstances they were obtained.

A lot of clips are purposely put out by the copyright holders in an attempt at "viral marketing"

Many companies are in partnership with youtube and their materials are just fine for youtube, but otherwise would look as if they were copyrighted material.

By asking the posters to use the "if in doubt, don't post it" method, without explaining how you, the moderators, would decide if the clip is copyrighted or not.

Would you automatically assume it is copyrighted material if it looks professionally shot?
Do you do research or just pull a link that another member says is copyrighted but provides no proof that it's existence on youtube is not legal?
What if the clip on youtube is made without copyright attachments, but includes clips that are allowed under Fair use policies? is BWW prepared to do the legwork necessary to find out the specific on each link that is posted, or are you going to follow your own advice and just remove it if you even think it might be copyrighted material.

Imagine if cops went around arresting people they thought might committ a crime.
Or more realistically, imagine an usher who kicks people out of the theater if he thinks they might take pictures or eat noisy candy or sing along?

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Updated On: 3/31/07 at 12:11 AM

Ah, what would the board be without the invaluable contributions of neddyfrank?

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I don't think he's worried, just curious. Besides, the vast majority of links that have been posted since the ban was lifted clearly haven't used common sense.

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never mind.

I think I've answered my own question. I'm going to call it the "Happy Birthday" clause. You know those copyright holders keep such a tight leash on that song (which is why people often inexplicably sing "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow" in films and tv shows when its someone's birthday) and it lasts like what, 30 seconds or so? I would guess that it would be a violation to post any material that has a copyrighted song in it, whether that song is being sung by someone in the clip or if the song is just used in the background.

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Seems pretty clear to me, that that's EXACTLY how it works. Hooray, Fenchurch, you finally got it, with Kringas' help!

BWW lightened up on its original policy, and you're giving Craig a hard time for it? It would serve you right if they decide to go back to the old one, then. Craig was (and seriously, you've been posting since Nov and you don't know who he is?) simply announcing BWW's disclaimer. Any doubt whether it's copyrighted or not? DON'T post it.

So, if I am correct, that means that pretty much every link that's been posted since the ban is a copyright violation. And there's no saying that I'm actually correct or not. I never got an answer on the board or via PM, so I just made my own guesses.

I don't get why people are being so bitchy to Fenchurch.

At any rate, it's a youtube free for all on the boards now.

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Fenchurch

It's actually not more work. It's the same work - because with or without the restriction, people were still posting at will whatever they wanted. The difference is now, those that post links to material that doesn't violate copyright laws can share videos with each other that they find interesting.

As for the rest of your diatribe, I'm chosing not to respond because it's simply ridiculous.

BroadwayWorld probably has one of the most relaxed posting policies out there while still maintaining decorum. We are so incredibly far from being a dictatorship or crazy with censorship. We even opened up an off-topic message board on this theater site to offer another way people could talk about issues which they were interested in aside from the arts.

I can ammend my earlier statement - of the thousands that post here, 3 people (maybe as many as 5?) are the only ones taking an issue with this. Again - if YOU are unclear what's allowed and what's not - then simply don't post YouTube links.

You really only have to worry about yourself...

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