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Ole Chum
#25re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 7:21pm

poor matthew risch!

hes getting slaughtered out there.

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Marlothom
#26re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 7:24pm

This is disappointing. I thought the show was weak, too long, a bit boring, but the talent was fine. Risch works SO HARD but aside from the sweating, I don't think he makes it look hard.


"Observe how bravely I conceal this dreadful dreadful shame I feel."

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marknyc
#27re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 7:34pm

From AP:

The cad is back: 'Pal Joey' returns to Broadway

by Michael Kuchwara

Risch was elevated to star status after the production's original Joey, Christian Hoff, departed during previews with a foot injury. And the understudy acquits himself well, particularly during choreographer Graciela Daniele's club numbers. A fine dancer, Risch (in the role originated on Broadway in 1940 by Gene Kelly) has a boyish energy, a sexy confidence tinged with more than a little naughtiness. They are qualities just right for attracting the worldly wise, older woman, socialite Vera Simpson, played here by Channing.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/12/19/arts/Theater-Review-Pal-Joey.php Updated On: 12/18/08 at 07:34 PM

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Wanna Be A Foster
#28re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 7:36pm

Did you write that?

If not, it's plagiarism.


"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad

"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)

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marknyc
#29re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 7:40pm

"Plagiarism is the use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work."

I credited the author and the source.

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ljay889
#30re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 7:42pm

I believe you're only allowed to post a snippet of reviews, and must provide a link.
Updated On: 12/18/08 at 07:42 PM

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marknyc
#31re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 7:47pm

Edited it. It's available for free, so who cares?

Either way, it's not plagiarism.

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Wanna Be A Foster
#32re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 7:50pm

The people who run this site care.

If you copy and paste an entire article without posting a link, this site is responsible for your plagiarism.

ljay is right. You are only legally allowed to paste snippets and must provide a link when referencing an article written by someone else on a different website. Otherwise, it is plagiarism, and the people who run the site are responsible for your negligence.


"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad

"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)

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TheCharleston
#33re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 7:51pm

this is true

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marknyc
#34re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 7:58pm

As I said, you are misusing the term plagiarism. Did you even read my earlier post? Once again:

"Plagiarism is the use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work."

I did not engage in plagiarism - I credited both the author and the source.

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Marlothom
#35re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 8:08pm

whether legal or not, websites hold a certain amount of responsibility and so we should follow the rules they set. Another way of looking at it could be that by posting the entire review, you take away the incentive to go to the real source.


"Observe how bravely I conceal this dreadful dreadful shame I feel."

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Mamie
#36re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 8:09pm

You're absolutely right - it's not plagiarism. It might be copyright infringement, but it's not plagiarism.


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mamie4 5/14/03
Updated On: 12/18/08 at 08:09 PM

massofmen
#37re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 8:10pm

why "poor matthew risch"? no one made him take the role, they offered and he accepted. He deserves whatever reviews he gets.
I don't understand why its "poor" new guy.
He could have easily said, "i dont think i am ready for this yet and I would like to stay in the chorus and understudy so i can get my acting skills more polished so when i do become a leading man, I will be ready for the harsh NY critics". But he didn't. You have to be ready for the feast or famine.

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marknyc
#38re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 8:16pm

"whether legal or not, websites hold a certain amount of responsibility and so we should follow the rules they set. Another way of looking at it could be that by posting the entire review, you take away the incentive to go to the real source."

I never commented on the legality. But since it was an AP review, you're not going to the "real source." It will be available at many, many sites, so I didn't see the need to link to one particular site that happens to carry it.


Updated On: 12/18/08 at 08:16 PM

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LizzieCurry
#39re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 8:18pm

You underestimate how many people on this board are dumb enough to think just because you posted something that you must've written it.

CITE STUFF.

OKAY?

OKAY.

thank you. goodnight. bye bye.


"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt

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Marlothom
#40re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 8:20pm

Yah. Just follow the house rules, nuff said. You forgot to mention the most important part, that AP IS POSITIVE! :)


"Observe how bravely I conceal this dreadful dreadful shame I feel."

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theaterkid1015
#41re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 8:20pm

If anyone needs help with citations, they should visit Purdue's OWL (online writing lab). It features wonderful tips on correct MLA format.

I <3 AP English. Lots.


Some people paint, some people sew, I meddle.

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marknyc
#42re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 8:22pm

"You underestimate how many people on this board are dumb enough to think just because you posted something that you must've written it. CITE STUFF."

This was the cite in my original post. Was it not clear?

From AP:

The cad is back: 'Pal Joey' returns to Broadway

by Michael Kuchwara

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Mamie
#43re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 8:27pm

Mark,

It doesn't matter if you're innocent or guilty of any crimes or misdemeanors or how many posters here decide to jump on you - ANY way you look at it you're still in better shape than PAL JOEY.


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mamie4 5/14/03

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marknyc
#45re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 8:29pm

I saw Matthew's first night and loved the show and thought he did well. I can only guess that he's even better now.

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jv92
#46re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 9:17pm

Risch was charmless in the role. While I wish him well with future projects, he deserves some of these mixed reviews.
And let's leave poor mark alone for now. Wrong or right he has heard enough.

RentBoy86
#47re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 9:26pm

I saw it last week and he was pretty awful. After his first song, "Chicago," I thought: this will be a long show. I mean, the songs not even hard to sing, but he was having trouble just hitting the notes and the melody.

Yankeefan007
#48re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 9:34pm

"Run, don't walk, to see Matthew Risch," began an email I received from a friend at tonight's performance about 20 minutes ago, "because he'll probably never work again."

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jv92
#49re: PAL JOEY Reviews
Posted: 12/18/08 at 9:35pm

The whole thing was terrible. He was, Channing was, the sets were, the cosutmes were mediocre for William Ivey Long, the orchestrations were disgusting, the direciton was bad, the dances were pedestrian. Oh, and the new book...how do they say it nowadays?...sucked.
The Roundabout should be ashamed of themselves. Richard Rodgers is rolling in his grave. Larry Hart is probably too busy writing misaccented lyrics and drinking scotch, but I hope he is too.


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