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#26

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It is a story that shows how a person can been emotionally devastated by love and obsession. Fosca is a superb incarnation of that obsession. Donna Murphy gives one of the bravest performances to be put on a Broadway stage. I pick up more nuances in her Fosca each time I watch the DVD. Just watch what she does with her hands. It is a pity that her entrance is somewhat overshadowed by Clara. Fosca's entrance does so much to set up her character. I believe that the moment on stage was extremely memorable.

Sondheim's gorgeous score is as though written as one long rhapsody. The main themes recur, but often with slight differences. I believe that the score improves with repeated listening.

One thing about the DVD that places it on my 'must watch' list, is the audio commentary. Stephen Sondheim, James Lapine, Donna Murphy, Marin Mazzie and Jere Shea all give their impressions, stories and their behind-the-scenes knowledge in this commentary. It is also one of the most humorous extras for a Sondheim musical. I don't think I could live without the Hermione Gingold music hall story, or the saga of the wandering mole.

I can see that Passion could be an acquired taste. It is written with the sensibilities of the original, Italian novel in mind. I do also question some of James Lapine's decisions. But, still I enjoy it.

'Try not to have a good time...this is supposed to be educational.' - Lucy Van Pelt

Updated On: 8/22/05 at 03:37 AM

#27

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Oh, I LOVE the commentary on the DVD -very insightful! I can't believe I forgot to mention it.
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#28

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PASSION is a work that needs to be appreciated without distraction. You have to be fully absorbed in the characters of Giorgio, Fosca and Clara - it is the story of these intertwining passions and you view each one with a different perspective. Whose passion or whose love is the purest in the end?

I enjoy watching or listening to it a great deal because it is quite an absorbing study of these three human beings with different outlooks and obssessions. I also think that the music must be Stephen Sondheim's most romantic to-date.

I saw the show in London, I do have the DVD of the Broadway version, and I have both OCRs. I agree with the comments re --

>>>On the London cast recording, there's a song that I don't think is in the Broadway version (I listen to the London one WAY more because the cast is so fantastic). Giorgio sings:
"No one has ever loved me,
As that woman has.
No one has truly loved me, till Fosca.
Love without reason, love without mercy,
Love without pride or shame,
Love unconcerned with being returned,
No wisdom, no judgement, no caution, no blame.
No one has ever known me as that woman has....
I was wrong, love's a demand, I was wrong.
Love needn't grow,
LOVE CAN BE SUDDEN SURRENDER NOT TENDER NOT SLOW
AND I KNOW NOW THAT I LOVE FOSCA.
Not the way that she loves me,
But I love Fosca, and nothing will come of it." <<<

that this song captures the essence of the relationship between Giorgio and Fosca.

And what a song delivery from Michael Ball -- you have to hear it to believe it.

#29

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This is a show I couldn't begin to analyse. I saw it on 31st Jan 1994 on its closing week. I thought it was absolutely amazing and one of Sondheim's most accessible scores. The opening with Marin Mazzie naked was just so natural and you really felt you had sneaked in on a very private moment. It was so moving and SO real. The video didn't really capture the mood as well and of course Marin was forced to cover up (small detail but it made a significant difference to the sense of intimacy).

Sorry I'm not helping with dealing with Fosca. I felt so much dislike for her as she pursued Giorgio but by the end of the show I was weeping with joy for her. She sings in a minor key almost exclusively until she reprises Happiness which is when your heart breaks.

It is definitely one of Stephen Sondheim's most glorious and emotional shows. I love it!

I think I will put the CD on now................!
"Your eyes..... they shine like the pants on my blue serge suit"
#30

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I love the information and insights the Broadway cast provides on the dvd. But if the truth be told I do much prefer the "sound" of the London Cast. But that is just me. And Jo, I do love the song I Love Fosca.
#31

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Every time I watch Passion I go back the next day watch it with the commentary, that makes me feel better. It is so sad, that I need something to make me happy.
#32

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I agree with almost everything that's been said...Especially about the wonderful, wonderful commentary track on the DVD.I've already said how I feel about this musical - it really has had a profound emotional effect on me, and continues to do so every time I listen to it/ watch it.

BUT.. This has GOT to be said. Even though Micheal Ball is a great Giorgio, I absolutely hate Maria Friedman's Fosca! It is laughable, honestly - she is just so melodramatic and over the top when she speaks and when she sings....oh well, let's just say I didn't really like her voice. I literally laughed out loud the first time I heard her - it was so bizarre, really!
I know what I'm saying is harsh, and you might think I'm only saying this because I'm a huge Donna Murphy fan and LOVE her Fosca with every fiber of my being (yes,I told you I have an obsessive personality) - but her Fosca is just...wrong. She makes her into this pathetic person, and Fosca really isn't (like someone said earlier). With Donna Murphy, she still has a sense of dignity somehow, even when she is throwing herself at Giorgio's feet. Plus, that voice...To me, she IS Fosca.


"Years from now, when you talk about this - And you will - Be kind. "
#33

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I was mesmorized by Passion from the beginning to the end with my first watch. I did not have any idea what it was about, other than it was by the great Stephen Sondheim. I think it is one of his most haunting and beautiful works. The lyrics stuck to me when I finished. I think the score is priceless- a masterpiece. The acting in it is def. top notch. Donna Murphey is brilliant as Fosca and she makes her so belieavalbe and real. It is the best performance I have ever seen by a female actress in a musical. Also, I think Passion is the best staged film I have ever seen. Passion brought out a lot of emotions in me- I really felt the relationships of the characters. I can't see how a person can't like it. It is my favorite Sondheim.
"They hear drums. We hear music."
#34

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This is great. You're all inspiring me to go back and give it another chance. I must admit that it didn't have my complete attention the first time. Perhaps I'll get the cast recording. But which one?
#35

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I suggest you get the OBC with Donna Murphy. Her voice is just right for the music, and she sings it beautifully. So do Marin and Jere, but Donna Murphy especially. Just amazing.
#36

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Yes, the OBC I think is the strongest, though I do like Michael Ball SINGING Giorgio on the London cast (even if I hear his acting wasn't so hot.)

I love this show...there are at least two perspectives in every scene,and if you really analyze it, you can understand them both.
"This ocean runs more dark and deep than you may think you know...I'll be the fear of the fire at sea." -Marie Christine
#37

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Michael Ball as Giorgio??? He was great to listen to but terrible to watch. Unfortunately Maria Friedman (whom I normally love) played Fosca as if she was constipated. I kept wanting to give her a dose of Syrup of Figs!
"Your eyes..... they shine like the pants on my blue serge suit"
#38

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2 things about Passion i really love. The way Marin Mazzie sings Giorgio (everytime she says his name) it makes me a little warm inside, and the line in one of the songs (I don't know any of the titles cause its just sort of been in my cars CD player for 3 weeks) but where Girogio is telling Fosca what she is doing isn't love, its obsession, and he gets to the part where he says "I've begun to fear for my soul" I pee myself a little. SO amazing. The first few times i listened it to it, i tought everything sounded like Pretty Women from Sweeney and bothered, I half expected the officers to start singing Pretty Women in the background, but I got over it, and have falled madly in love.
when ducks grow thumbs then maybe my opinion will change.
#39

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I actually loved the Passion DVD, except for the things I mentioned on this thread.

https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.cfm?boardname=bway&thread=861780#1288179

I can definitely understand the uncomfortable feelings dealing with Fosca. However, like someone else said, you're not supposed to be comfortable with her. It's not a typical romance story and it's not really supposed to be. That'd be way too easy. re: 'Passion' DVD....zzzzzzzzzz

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Updated On: 8/23/05 at 04:26 PM

#40

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i'm not sure i'm "ready" for the dvd. i got the OBCR not too long ago. the first time i listened to it, i was intrigued, but i just didn't "get" it. as i heard it more, and really listened to the word, i was like WOW. unlike anything i've ever heard before. and the voices are indeed marvelous. i was a fan of marin from ragtime, i'd never heard donna sing before. she is stunning! i'm still fascinated by the OBCR ... i don't think i'm ready to see it or hear it with a different cast.
RIP glebby <3
#41

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I saw the show on Broadway once it opened, and then bought the DVD later when it was released. I never liked the DVD as much as I loved the show on Broadway - something doesn't quite translate, or perhaps the direction for camera was just lacking - I can see how you'd find the DVD on the boring side, but the actual live production was anything BUT. Of course, I am a diehard Sondheim fan. I loved the Patti Lupone version, also, but didn't care for Cerveris in the role at all. Audra was perfection.
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!" Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!
#42

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You saw it on Broadway? Can you describe it? *Sigh*
"This ocean runs more dark and deep than you may think you know...I'll be the fear of the fire at sea." -Marie Christine
#43

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I must confess I did see the London production and the acting is not a patch on the Broadway version. (as usual) Michael Ball's acting was over-the-top and false; I don't find him convincing in roles that are remotely demanding. Maria Friedman was even worse. As someone else mentioned earlier, it was quite humorous, she portrayed the role as if she was a pantomime villain. She didn't capture the angst and painful loneliness that Fosca feels. I watched the Broadway DVD afterwards and don't think it could have been better cast. Donna and Marin were superb.
#44

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One thing that amazed me aboout the recent semi-staged concert version on PBS was how much more Audra McDonald made of Clara. Marin Mazzie was amazing in the role but lines that were throwaways with Mazzie took on whole new meanings when McDonald delivered them, notably in the scene where Giorgio tells Clara he is not taking his full sick leave. *And note that Marin and Audra co-starred in RAGTIME, the best new musical of the past 10 years!

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#45

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frontrowcentre2, I completely agree with you. I felt that Audra McDonald made more of the role than Marin Mazzie did. You really felt sorry for her and understood what it meant to her to have Giorgio not take his full sick leave. Marin Mazzie was still great, but I felt that Audra McDonald gave it that extra 'omph'.
I also much preferred Donna's performance to Patti LuPone's. I think that Patti LuPone has such a large booming style that it didn't work for Fosca.
#46

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Agreed
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#47

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This might sound like I'm nitpicking...But I felt LuPone was a tad too old for the part. The obvious age difference between her and Cerveris, and thus, between Fosca and Giorgio, made her pursuit of him a little *too* disturbing (as someone said, I agree Fosca is supposed to be a bit disturbing). Again, it made the character pathetic in her attempts to woo this much younger man; It meant Fosca was not just ugly and sickly, but much older, and I personally didn't like that added characterization.

That said, she does have a glorious voice. I wish they had recorded that performance.
"Years from now, when you talk about this - And you will - Be kind. "
#48

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Frontrow...I agree about Audra, but for some reason having a more likeable Clara (I thought as she was so much more human, she actually seemed more in love with Giorgio so it made his descision in the end almost less believable) didn't quite work with this particular production. Because Patti's Fosca seemed in some ways a little less sensitive (maybe it was the fact she wasn't constantly crying) I dont' know. I mean, I liked Patti's take but I think the dynamics were thrown off a bit. Marin came off as somewhat more cold, her love more superficial. As if she cared about Giorgio but could live without him. I almost thought Audra's Clara was having second thoughts about making him choose which made it more heartbreaking.
"This ocean runs more dark and deep than you may think you know...I'll be the fear of the fire at sea." -Marie Christine
#49

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the age difference between lupone and ceveris is not much different than the age difference between shea and murphy. in both cases, the woman is older.
when ducks grow thumbs then maybe my opinion will change.
#50

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I disagree. Jere Shea is indeed 6 years younger than Donna Murphy, but she looked younger than she was and the difference wasn't as jarring as the 11 years between LuPone and Cerveris. Because, after all, it's all about appearances. And LuPone LOOKED waaay older than Cerveris, that's all I'm saying.
"Years from now, when you talk about this - And you will - Be kind. "

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