Prayers to a fellow actor — Page 3

Oh Please, we just lost the leader of the Catholic Church....He was a fine man, from another time.....He had to keep the traditions of the Church......Sad, but true.....But he was 84 years old. He had a good life.....I think I feel more sorry for my gay friends who never made it to 30, because they died of Aids and some of my female friends who died of Breast Cancer at 40.....The Catholic Church will go on, with another Pope...Hopefully, he might change some of the things in the church that makes people so angry!!!!!!

munkustrap...I'm sorry if I came on so strong. I just get tired of people who are ignorant about the church's beliefs and still are against them. obviously, you have a different idea of the church than i do. i'm sorry you have such negative feelings toward the church and I am sorry if i offended you.

munkustrap 178, I will be praying for you tonight as well as the Pope.

Because I want to!

Odd, because I saw a news clip of Pope JPII blessing an AIDS patient and offering a prayer for those suffering from the disease. He didn't specify gays, straights, black, white, male, female, young or old...he offered a blessing to all with AIDs. What the man did try to do was teach tolerance which is certainly an attitude that would be a nice experience in this country and on this board. Sure, the Catholic Church is conservative; but, not nearly as conservative as the Christian Right.

Regardless of your religion or beliefs, a human being has died and "attention must be paid". Yes, he was 84 years old, but should that matter? A life is a life is a life.

We all deserve peace...

Well thank you, that's sweet. While I feel that prayer is soothing for some (not me, I don't do it) but it's good because it makes people feel good, and that's fine, but that's it. It's impossible for it to do anything else. I'm not discounting what you're saying, or saying that you're wrong, but this is my point of view.

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Huh? We weren't even talking about the Pope anymore...

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Mamie,

beautifully stated.

Munk,

I am with you. I understand what you are saying. And I very much respect you for your beliefs. There are a lot of people suffering here, who are very upset about the Pope's passing. I, myself have beliefs similar to yours and personally don't know the power of prayer, nor do I believe anyone CAN know the power of prayer-it's about faith. But I thank you for being so forthright with your opinion and your beliefs.

Skempp,

I do have to say that you are a touch misguided in your posting about the Pope trying to teach tolerance. He called homosexuality an "ideology of evil." I fail to see the message of tolerance there.

Everyone else-

Your thoughts are beautiful. It always amazes me when I read people who are so passionate about any topic. But please respect each other for their beliefs. Yes there is a time and a place for everything, but it's not for any of us to decide when and where that is. As much as many of you have a great deal of sadness for the loss of the Pope, others have a great deal of fervor and frustration with a man who did indeed have faults. We think of the Pope as a man who you'd want to hug when you see...a grandpa for everyone. I don't know about you, but my grandpa probably wouldn't be happy with me being gay. It's the world he lived in...then again, my grandpa wasn't the Pope. He wasn't a man in a position to truly teach love and acceptance for all. World leaders never looked to him for guidance, nor did legions of faithful followers. When someone with that power says jump, the faithful jump. When someone with that power says homosexuality is the "ideology of evil," the followers believe.

I pray (not knowing the outcome, I usually call it a hope), that the next Pope will be one who can truly embrace all, despite who they share their own love with.

We are talking about the death of someone as if this is an unique tragedy.... as far as I am aware death is the one thing on which we can all be certain...

Comments such as 'Please people, a man just died.' are frankly lazy thinking, for who does this rational of death=absolution of all sins apply?

In 1945 should we have said let's pray for Hitler for god's sake a man has just died?

And no I'm not comparing the Pope to Hitler just trying to express an opinion that whilst many will mourn his passing, I can not put to one side all his faults because he has just died, I'm not interested in indulging such sentimental nonsense.

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26 years..... Not a bad run.

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The Pope condemmed millions to a painful death with his lies about AIDS and the opposition use of condoms to prevent it, I hope this terrible man rots in hell.