Recent GYPSY revival - Controversial? — Page 2
Posted: 3/23/06 at 1:45am
Updated On: 3/23/06 at 01:45 AM
Posted: 3/23/06 at 2:12am
I have a question though. I am only 19 so I wasn't old enough to see the Tyne Daly revival in the early 90s. I do own the cast recording and Daly's performance in the recording is disappointing and her voice is quite unpleasant to listen to, some of my older friends criticize her for her vocals in the show(although they praise her acting). My question is why is Daly hailed as one of the best Roses while Peters-who had some issues singing the score, yet when she was ok her vocals were quite powerful-is being overtly criticized and was snubbed to receive the Tony award? I am just asking since I never got to see Daly live.
Posted: 3/23/06 at 2:21am
Peters was working at a deficit from the beginning - no one expected her to pull off Rose - she's tiny, she has that high pitched voice - who would think she could come close to what was needed to play the mother of all stage mothers? Then when she became ill and missed previews, all the doomsayers were able to gleefully wring their hands and proclaim that they had been right all along - she couldn't handle the role.
Tyne Daly is a big tv star who came in and did a fabulous job overcoming a glaring weakness. That's why she won.
Posted: 3/23/06 at 3:52am
Bernadette was amazing because she put soooooo much energy and love into Rose.
and yes she DEFINTLY deserved the tony over marisa
Posted: 3/23/06 at 4:20am
Updated On: 3/23/06 at 04:20 AM
Posted: 3/23/06 at 10:55am
Posted: 3/23/06 at 11:13am
I thought the production was brilliant. I show-within-a-vaudeville show production style was inspired, and the casting was pretty much perfect all around.
With the exception of Peters. I know the woman is talented, and there are plenty of roles for her out there...but Rose isn't one of them. I have no problem with an actress reinventing the role, infusing sexuality and playfulness, and straying from the Merman mold. What I do have a problem with is a clearly mis-cast actress, struggling through not only the songs, but the dialogue as well. What I saw on the stage that night was a talented, well-intentioned actress gasping for air in a role that so obviously a physicial ordeal for her to get through. She never for a second inhabited the role or made me forget that it was Bernadette Peters up there, just trying to get herself through the evening.
I had a wonderful, golden-age-Broadway experience that night seeing Gypsy...but left thinking, "I still feel like I haven't seen a good Rose."
Updated On: 3/23/06 at 11:13 AM
Posted: 3/23/06 at 11:34am
Posted: 3/23/06 at 11:34am
Posted: 3/23/06 at 11:45am
Angela: A classic musical comedy star performance.
Tyne: She scared the hell out of me as "Rose" -- in a good way. True, her vocals were sketchy, but she DID act the hell out of it. Her "Roses" gave me chills, and the penultimate fight scene with "Louise" in the Minsky's dressing room was phenomenal.
Bernadette: Like someone said before, I finally realized why Herbie would stay with this Rose all those years. A completely different take on the role, but no less effective. I guess I was one of the lucky ones who saw the show on a night when no vocal problems were evident, because she sang it very well.
"Rose" is the "Lady Macbeth" of female musical roles, and is open to individual intrepretation of the actor and director. I guess it's all in your personal preference. For me, I think I remember Tyne Daly's performance the most.
Posted: 3/23/06 at 11:51am
Posted: 3/23/06 at 11:52am
Posted: 3/23/06 at 11:59am
and Peters was amazing at this performance. she didn't have to hold anything back, and didn't. I'll never forget it.
Posted: 3/23/06 at 11:03pm
Posted: 3/24/06 at 12:01am
Also, did this revival recoup? I remember it playing in NYC when I went, but I don't remember hearing if it recoup. I mean, considering the whole thing was worked around Peters, i know it didn't tour.
Posted: 3/24/06 at 12:13am
"Hey little girls, look at all the men in shiny shirts and no wives!" - Jackie Hoffman, Xanadu, 19 Feb 2008
Posted: 3/24/06 at 12:15am
Posted: 3/24/06 at 12:26am
Gypsy is not Wicked. Listen to the Peters cast album and you'll understand why the score is so difficult for someone to perform 8 times a week. The show was built around Ethel Merman whose voice power is legendary so that can tell you something about the difficulty of singing this role.
Posted: 3/24/06 at 12:34am
Posted: 3/24/06 at 12:31pm
Posted: 3/24/06 at 1:06pm
-- SO SO True. There is a reason why GYPSY is considered by most, the best musical of ALL TIME. The material is just amazing. Momma Rose takes a lot more vocal strength than say - Elphaba. Momma has to carry the majority of the score, usually she's belting, but that's not just it. She needs to keep a fierce intensity in her voice when she belts. That is where most Momma's fail, besides Merman. Merman's voice didn't falter at all, she kept her belt so intense and forceful. A lot of Momma's sound weak on the belt, because they can't keep the intensity - and some even need to lower keys.
Now, I will say. I think LuPone will be the best belted Momma since Merman. I am positive she can carry the intense belt throughout the whole show.
Updated On: 3/24/06 at 01:06 PM
Posted: 3/24/06 at 1:06pm
Truth be told, Bernadette Peters was the first actress to play the show on Broadway that LOOKED similar to Rose.
I found her performance magnificent--and I believe the Tony belonged to her that season. She combined the necessary sexuality and the force-of-nature attitude to make a sensational Rose.
Just my .02
Posted: 3/24/06 at 1:07pm
To the poster who asked about Bernadette in concert:I've seen her in concert maybe 5 or 6 times, as well as several Broadway shows. A chance to see her in concert is simply not to be missed, as others have pointed out. Here is a brief review from one of her latest concerts, in Denver in Feb. 2006:
"Bernadette Peters has Broadway down pat
Bernadette Peters must be the greatest Broadway performer alive.
If there were any doubts, she exploded them during an electrifying, sold-out concert Saturday evening as part of the Colorado Symphony's pops series.
As hard as it is to believe, Peters turn 58 on Tuesday. She looks far younger, still bursting with energy, zestiness and sex appeal to rival any 20-something performer.
Though related in some ways to what can be heard in jazz clubs or cabaret rooms, Broadway singing is like nothing else. It can be big and brassy or slow and sentimental, but it has to have show-biz flair and emotional honesty at its core.
Peters presented a wonderfully varied program - familiar and not-so-familiar songs from Broadway shows past and present - with surprisingly complex lighting that significantly enhanced the evening.
For sass and spunk, nothing could top her all-out take on "There Is Nothing Like a Dame" from "South Pacific." Peters has a special affinity for Stephen Sondheim, and she offered memorable takes on several of his songs, including a touching version of "No One Is Alone" from "Into the Woods."
That's entertainment."
- Kyle MacMillan, Denver Post, Feb. 24, 2006
And keep in mind that her husband died in September 2005, so we can only imagine the emotion and difficulties she must be going through.
Updated On: 3/24/06 at 01:07 PM
Posted: 3/24/06 at 1:55pm
Interesting side note: As far as Broadway Roses go, at age 55, Bernadette Peters was the oldest. Merman was either 51 or 53 (depending on which source you use as her birthdate), Linda Lavin was 52, Lansbury was 48, Tyne Daly was 43. On film, Rosalind Russell was 51, Bette Middler was 47.
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