Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
massofmen
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/10/04
#1Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:19am
And people said I was a "moron" or where is the link to my "facts"and that they talked to people and it had a "great advance"?.
Mr. Riedel says it for me. 4 million for an advance on a 15 million dollar show with 650,000 op costs.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05062009/entertainment/theater/for_tony__dollys_a_bust_167864.htm?page=0
I only speak the truth. The show is in huge trouble. Let's see if it makes it to labor day.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#2re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:31amIf Dolly were to host, she should get a special Tony for classiness. I do hope she gets to chat with Elton John who could tell her about when the Tony committee "Snubbed" Aida. It would be nice if Dolly tried her hand at Broadway again some day.
#2re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:38amJoe, according to her bio that I saw on the Biography Channel last year she's working on a musical about her life.
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FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#3re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:41am
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Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#4re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:46amTwo hours of variations on Backwoods Barbie, I'd imagine.
WestVillage
Broadway Star Joined: 7/20/05
#5re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:48amLet it play in Dollywood ... and leave it at that.
#6re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:48amIt is posts like these that make me long for the pre-internet days when a show with troubles could have private dignity. This vivisection of new shows and updates from every single preview on gets to be a bit much. Especially when someone clearly has issues with a show.
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barcelona20
Broadway Star Joined: 1/19/08
#6re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:48amHow's that Hair prediction working out for you massofmen?
AndAllThatJazz22
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/8/08
#8re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:50amI go to dollywood every weekend in the summers, I would be more than happy if it played there :)
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#9re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:55amhttps://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.cfm?thread=996316&dt=5&boardid=1
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#10re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:56am
I remember the talk of the musical about her life...it said something about Mountain Girl in the working title.
Unlike this article, I DO think that Dolly has a much better shot than they say of winning Best Score. I think that possibly the lack of nominations, the fact she in Dolly Parton, and the fact that Elton John has won for "Aida" might be enough for her to pull through.
As for her hosting without the show being nominated for Best Musical, I don't think it will happen and I think it would just be weird if it did.
#11re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:57am
"Especially when someone clearly has issues with a show"
Well stated, Bettyboy. I, often, stay out of these frays but I just fail to understand personal vendettas against shows. It's fine to like or not like a show but to take so much time and energy to put it down seems, well, wasteful to me. It's almost as if the show came to your house and ate all your ice cream or whatever. It's silly. You didn't like it and that's fine. But move past it rather than taking every opportunity to start a childish fight.
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
massofmen
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/10/04
#12re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:01am
not too bad. I still think it will close right after labor day.
and I was right about Blonde, RoA and 9-5 and countless others. So if I am wrong about Hair I will own up to it. But right now, I am almost 100%.
So yeah, I am feeling pretty good.
CurtainPullDowner
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/4/04
#13re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:08amWhat exactly is a Bettyboy?
#14re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:11amIt should still probably outlast next to normal.
mzk2004
Chorus Member Joined: 4/6/04
#15re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:12amRock of Ages is doing nowhere near the biz you project it doing. It's nut is around 370k. It's barely making money and hardly the success you herald it to be. It's another XANADU...fun, but not exactly a success story.
massofmen
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/10/04
#16re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:24am
its nut is actually lower than that.
And for a show to be opening in MARCH in one of the biggest economic downturns in the history of America, and not even hitting the summer yet, its doing GREAT business. Its making op costs every week and actually making a profit. Which is more than I can say for Guys and Dolls, 9-5 Shrek N2n..shall I keep going?
And now with tony nom's and tons of TV appearances to come because of those noms, the avg tix price will escalate during the summer which will drive grosses up.
So its a little different than Xanadu. Also because ROA's fan base is about half the country where xanadu's was about..Chelsea and the Village?
If ROA is the xanadu for striaght people, the show is going to run for a long long time.
mzk2004
Chorus Member Joined: 4/6/04
#17re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:25am
Well maybe things have changed since I saw the offering papers.
I say it'll be head by next summer not recouping.
ps. Several of the shows you mentioned HAVE been making their nut plus some...like GUYS AND DOLLS and believe it or not 9 TO 5.
Updated On: 5/6/09 at 11:25 AM
#18re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:29am
its nut is actually lower than that.
And for a show to be opening in MARCH in one of the biggest economic downturns in the history of America, and not even hitting the summer yet, its doing GREAT business. Its making op costs every week and actually making a profit.
Sources?
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#19re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:29amMaybe one day it will be nominated for Best Revival of a Musical!
mzk2004
Chorus Member Joined: 4/6/04
#20re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:31amAlso since you seem to be so in the know, where exactly is the advance of TDF fav Rock of Ages?
#21re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:33amThe weekly nut of ROA is more than 370k.
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#22re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:39amI think the weekly nut is massofmen.
#23re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:39amIs the cost of the alcohol and the additional staff needed to serve it considered part of the "nut"? Other theatres have bars a but RoA is the only one that uses the drinking and the "be served in your seat" thing as part of their marketing.
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
mzk2004
Chorus Member Joined: 4/6/04
#24re: Remember When I said that 9-5 had a poor advance?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 11:41amAs I remember it the royalties for the songs were a huge expense.
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