Rosie on NEXT TO NORMAL and Alice...- Page 2

[little_sally]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 8:47pm

I love Next to Normal but I think Billy Elliot will win, and I think a lot of people here can agree with me on that. Therefore, that means little.

[Pgenre]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 8:50pm

I wasn't addressing you, Craww, but the others, foolish as that may be.

The point is: Ripley is good, the material is great but the two don't work together for me and the show (and recorded score) suffers for it. I am not alone with my issues with Ripley's mannerred vocals, effective as they may be for her character. I took Rosie's lack of enthusiasm about a controversial show that has every ingredient that Rosie usually loves as a jumping-off point for my own exploration of why I feel this way.

Needless to say that exploration will certainly not continue anywhere near these dark quarters.

CapNHook is right, as he almost always is, as is muscle23, and most of the rest of you are immature, tactless fools as you always reveal yourselves to be and if you agreed (which I could never imagine) with me the same would still be true.

Nothing comes from nothing.

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[Ole Chum]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 8:52pm

let me just get this straight- n2n will not last the summer because... alice ripleys performance is too stylized? And the thinking is that people will therefore....read that you wrote that on these message boards and avoid the show? and in so doing, ignore her across the board rave reviews from every major publication out there?

the assbackwardness of your post has absolutely nothing to do with your bizarre interpretation of rosie o'donnells blog posting.

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 8:53pm

Ripley is the glue that holds it all together. I'm sure there are other who could play the role (in fact i know there are others, I've seen at least one), but none that could play it so well.

[Pgenre]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 9:01pm

The ability to hold two thoughts in one's head simultaneously comes only with the development of the frontal lobe in some humans.

Some, alas, never will understand that concept let alone be able to do it themselves whether though the cruelty of Mother Nature or their own ignorance.

And I will never reply to a post that uses the imaginary term "assbackwardness" in a language with hundreds of thousands of words, particularly in running for a touchdown with an off-hand remark (read:prediciton) which I sincerely hope will not be true, so I shall let that die with the rest of this thread.

Since when do sanity and informed opinions have anything to do with one another? Have any of you ever read John Simon?

A Good Nightmare Comes So Rarely,
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[LittleBitRacist]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 9:07pm

even if rosie didnt like the show, so what? that means nothing and definitely doesnt mean she supports your idea that alice "ruins" the show and that it wont last the summer. And you are completely wrong because it absolutely will last the summer, it was at 92% full last week and continues to go up every week. And your opinion on Alice ripley isn't worth arguing, the reviews, word of mouth, most peoples general common sense, and soon the tony, says enough.

[jordangirl]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 9:13pm

UM, the score is not recorded in the theatre. It is live with 6 musicians.

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 9:17pm

I think he meant the cast recording jordan.

[Pgenre]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 9:17pm

Any post using the words "definitely", "completely", "absolutely" about speculative terms (such as the length of run of a show) and stating the Tony is any form of vindication is reason enough to question my own insanity in replying to it.

Also, since when must all opinions be argued for an against?

As always, most of you completely missed the point and to those folks, by the way, I hear ROCK OF AGES is utterly fantastic.


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[jordangirl]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 9:20pm

OH, ok Zone. I couldn't tell.

[srg129]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 9:51pm

Perhaps the show (as well as Alice's portrayal) hit too close to home for one particular poster who appears to be suffering from a rather severe case of bipolar disorder and could possibly benefit from some pharmacological help and/or ECT.

But in most likeliness the correct diagnosis is just a rather immature need to feel self-important by posting incredibly self-indulgent messages (i.e. this entire thread). Please join the rest of us in the real world when you work out those issues and get some much needed help for that poorly developed frontal lobe.

Until then we can all hope McNeil-PPC hits the market soon with a new version of Imodium A-D designed to aid the mouth. In the meantime, it might be a good idea to stay away from Rosie's blog so that your fontal lobe can enjoy a full recovery.

[scott68]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 11:09pm

What Rosie O'Donnell thinks about any show, good or bad, is interesting. What this thread is about is someone wanting to bash Alice Ripley in Next to Normal and needing some outside justification. I mean, honestly, there's already a (justified and) prolific thread about her pitch. Couldn't you flame over there?

[RippedMan]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 11:28pm

Zoneface, why doesn't Billy Elliot deserve to win?

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 11:36pm

The score is terrible and there is enough schmaltz to kill the global polar bear population.

[RippedMan]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 11:52pm

Hm.

I'm trying to think of a witty comment because that's the most reDUNKulous reason to dislike a show (not the score part, the other part), but whatever to each their own.

I think Billy Elliot is one of those shows where I can't imagine someone NOT liking it, like with the recent Gypsy revival, but alas there's always someone.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 11:57pm

I liked Billy. A lot. But I still don't think it deserves the Tony for best musical. The score is adequate, the book is manipulative. The true star of BE is the choreography....which I adored.

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 6/3/09 at 11:58pm

And that's one of the awards it should win, Choreogrpahy. the others, not so much.

[RippedMan]

Posted: 6/4/09 at 12:02am

I don't get that argument at all. The book is manipulative? What? What's it suppose to be? Just present the facts and that's about it? A good show should take a stand and take a side. The show is brilliant and beautiful. I'm not saying other shows on Broadway aren't better, or whatever, but it's a good show, and you're entitled to think whatever the hell you want, but that's a ridiculous claim to make. That can be said for ANY show.

[scott68]

Posted: 6/4/09 at 12:03am

I really, really enjoyed Billy Elliot. The book is a little on the schmaltzy side, but absolutely effective. I cried more than once when I saw the show. And while I didn't find the choreography especially revelatory, I enjoyed it and thought it worked well for the story. The score... had a few fantastic songs and a ton of absolutely forgettable ones.

But the idea that Billy Elliot might and probably will win the Tony for Best Musical over a show like Next to Normal, which although also incredibly flawed is the only musical this season I'd go back to more than once (and have already paid to see again) absolutely blows my mind.

[adamgreer]

Posted: 6/4/09 at 12:08am

This pgenre character has given me endless entertainment this evening reading this thread. There is a lot of ridiculousness posted on BWW on a daily basis, but this may in fact be the most ridiculous.

Let us also take a look at this poster's avatar....Dance of the Vampires. That should tell us all we need to know about his taste.

At this point, does anyone in the world take what Rosie O'Donnell says in her blog seriously? She's not even on television anymore, her variety show tanked, and she has zero influence over anyone, save for her loyal followers.

I just, I mean...Alice Ripley ruins Next to Normal. Wow.
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[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/4/09 at 12:11am

Rosie hates Broadway singers with pitch problems!

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 6/4/09 at 12:12am

How does she live with herself ona daily basis then?

[RippedMan]

Posted: 6/4/09 at 12:12am

Well maybe she ruins it for some people? When I saw it in DC the row of teens in front of me didn't care for her voice/performance at all, so it's not for everyone.

And I'm sorry, but I don't think Billy Elliot winning the Tony is this huge upset. I mean, it's a good show. Sure, Next to Normal is good, but it has its fair share of forgettable songs as well. And the Doctor character really bugs me. I HATE when I see a show and there's no sort of character develop for a certain character. That really bugs me. I felt like they could have given him something more to work with. He sings well though, ha.

[adamgreer]

Posted: 6/4/09 at 12:14am

I don't think Billy winning is an upset. Everyone is predicting it to win. The upset would be if Next to Normal takes the top prize. Just because I expect Billy to win, doesn't mean I want it to, or that it deserves it.

[scott68]

Posted: 6/4/09 at 12:19am

I HATE when I see a show and there's no sort of character develop[sic] for a certain character.

So... can you explain to me the character development in Billy Elliot for Billy's friend, Billy's grandma, or the dance teacher? Because I didn't actually notice any.