SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival- Page 2
SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#25re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 10:27am
Les Miz is not now nor will it ever become the longest running show in Broadway history. When it opens, chnages or not, it is a *new* production (and eligible for best-revival), and the number of performances start all over again at no. 1. So whenever Phantom closes, Les Miz will have to perform at least for 18 more years beyond that date.
Also, there don't need to be any changes for it to be eligible for best musical revival. I don't know why people are questioning that.
Sant
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/12/04
#26re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 11:39am
Cathy, it is the longest running show in LONDON'S WEST END. On Broadway TPOTO still is the longest running show.
And as Fosse76 well stated above, once LES MIS opens in the Broadhurst, it is a REVIVAL, a new production of the show - no matter how little they eventually change it. The number of performances start from 1, not from where it was before it closed in the Imperial.
#27re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 12:06pm
Thanks guys. That's exactly what I thought. It was this sentence that was throwing me off:
"Les Miz is now billed as the longest-running musical in West End or Broadway history."
#28re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 1:00pm
I hope 802 makes a big stink if they cut it down too much.
Same here, although I doubt they'd go so far as to cut any further than the tour's orchestra (at least in cities where there were no local musicans).
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Updated On: 9/29/06 at 01:00 PM
Colle
Broadway Star Joined: 2/13/06
#29re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 3:55pm
Fosse76, there are some people that probably just don't know or understand the rules about what can be considered for best revival. There are those on this board, I think, that believe this production of Les Mis does not deserve to be considered for best revival because there will not be many changes.
I am glad that they are not making too many changes, I thought the way it was on the tour, which was the same as Broadway was fine as it is. A couple of changes they could make are:
Tone down the sound of the gunshots, especailly during Gavroche's death.
Don't make Cosette wear a wig, often the wig does not look good on the actress that plays Cosette IMO. Luckily, Ali Ewoldt didn't seem to be wearing a wig when I saw her on tour, so hopefully she will not be asked to wear one now.
Lastly, I am kind of hoping BWW, takes pictures of a dress rehearshal so we can see the changes in the costumes.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#30re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 4:08pmWord on the street has it that this time they will be using French accents instead of British Cockney.
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#31re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 5:24pmWhat do you mean "instead of"? They stopped doing that on Broadway/tour like 11 years ago.
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bwaylvsong
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/28/05
#32re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 6:53pmWhy would they use British accents in a show that takes place in France?
#33re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 6:57pm
Luckily, Ali Ewoldt didn't seem to be wearing a wig when I saw her on tour, so hopefully she will not be asked to wear one now.
You were lucky, Colle, because she had one on when I saw it, and it was awful. She's very pretty and was so cute from the forehead down -- but on top it stuck up so much it was like she had extra ears. Poor girl; she's a great Cosette, too.
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BSoBW2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/8/04
#34re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 6:59pm
That ended when Nick Wyman was criticized for it - and since, of course, he was there until the end (on and off, but mostly on)...
bwaylvsong - I think the reason for it is that it began in England so the cockney accent was used to represnet that "equivalent" in France. I think it works if you are in England, where it is a dialect.
But why does only Madame Giry have a French accent? Shouldn't they ALL have accents? Or they don't even need accents as the piece is being performed in English in an English speaking place.
#35re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 7:02pmBut the Thénardiers BEFORE Nick Wyman didn't do it. And when when Nick stopped doing it, it was still sorta there.
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BSoBW2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/8/04
#36re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 7:04pm
This is also a good point.
I think they should use New York accents and hick accents for the lower class.
J/K
bwaylvsong
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/28/05
#37re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 7:26pmI think that everyone other than the Thenardiers should speak in Standard American Broadcast English. The Thenardiers should simply use character voices, with "stupid" accents.
#38re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 7:29pmGod, this argument never dies.
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blaxx
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/05
#39re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 7:38pm
I think they should cut the reprises (or -pre-reprises, he he) of "Look Down", "Empty Chairs...", "On My Own", "I Dreamed a Dream", "Lovely Ladies", "Master of the House", "Do You hear...?:, "Bring him Home", etc...
This would make the show only around 20 minutes long!!! (Can it be more obvious they composed seven or eight themes that are repeated over and over for the whole three and a half hours???? hmph!)
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#40re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 7:49pm
If you cut the second "Look Down," Valjean has no time to put on the white wig, whiten his beard, and change -- and neither do the Thénardiers! 
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wickedrentq
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/6/04
#41re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 8:11pmOhh, they better not cut down the orchestra too much!
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#42re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 8:28pmson of a gun, it actually was originally written a fifth lower than it is on the original recording. Of course I wouldn't expect someone who hasn't sung the song before to know that.
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PalaceRent06
Understudy Joined: 1/18/06
#43re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 8:52pmwait...i have a question. Because les mis will be changing something that may mean they might be elidgable for a tony nod.. Does this mean Chorus Line will not be eligable(sp?)
#44re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 8:57pmOf course it will also be eligible. Why not?
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BSoBW2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/8/04
#45re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/29/06 at 9:17pm
They all will be.
Changes or no changes.
#46re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/30/06 at 12:27am
i wouldn't expect someone who wasn't Colm Wilkinson to know that! Colm, is that you?
mustard
Stand-by Joined: 7/27/06
#47re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/30/06 at 2:41amI'd love to see some costume changes. All the productions were so cookie cutter before.
TheEnchantedHunter
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/27/05
#48re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/30/06 at 2:42am
The first thing they should do is throw out the rotten, banal, Eurotrashy score and replace it with real theater music.
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Julian2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/10/06
#49re: SOME changes to be in Les Mis Revival
Posted: 9/30/06 at 2:52am
THE FANTASTICKS IS THE LONGEST RUNNING MUSICAL IN THE WORLD.
*8*8 off Cameron Makintosh.
Sry, just had to get that off my chest. 
Back to topic . . .
I can't wait to see what the reveiws for this will be like. It's just ridiculous to think about what "changes" they could be making.
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