So...Shogun
So...Shogun
#1So...Shogun
Posted: 3/10/08 at 10:23amOne of the March Madness threads got me wondering about this show...for those of you who saw it, was it really that bad? I'm truly curious about it now.
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#2re: So...Shogun
Posted: 3/10/08 at 10:32amI big colossal mess with some of the most stunning set design I have ever seen, even to this day. June Angela was wonderful.
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#2re: So...Shogun
Posted: 3/10/08 at 10:52amI looked it up on wikipedia (I know, I know...) and it really sounded like the odds were against this show. Do you think there is any way the show could have worked or is the source material just not adaptable?
"[Gore] was widely perceived as arrogant. If you know something, you're not smart. You're a smarty-pants. It's annoying. People get annoyed with your knowledge. It goes back to high school, to not doing your homework ... 'There's something I should know, I don't know why I should know it but someone knows it and I don't. So I'm going to have to make fun of him now.'"
-Sarah Vowell, The Partly-Cloudy Patriot
#3re: So...Shogun
Posted: 3/10/08 at 10:59am
The story was too big. It was a miniseries for pete's sake...how did they think they'd be able to get that much story in 3 hours?
The funniest was the glossary in the playbill. It was like taking your SATs. You had to study before the curtain so you could follow the plot.
I forgot to mention the wonderful Francis Ruivivar who died just a few years ago, far too young.
"Carson has combined his passion for helping children with his love for one of Cincinnati's favorite past times - cornhole - to create a unique and exciting event perfect for a corporate outing, entertaining clients or family fun."
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"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
#4re: So...Shogun
Posted: 3/10/08 at 11:23am
It was so bad - as I mentioned in the other thread, they actually had a song about a dildo. But it was one of those bad shows that was so horrible, it was worth seeing just to be able to say that you saw it.
Updated On: 3/10/08 at 11:23 AM
#5re: So...Shogun
Posted: 3/10/08 at 12:30pm
Anyone know if this show is preserved at the TOFT archive at Lincoln Center or if there are any [word that shall not be named on this or any other board under penalty of death] around out there of SHOGUN?
Also, if they made a souvenir brochure, anyone care to post some scans?
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#6re: So...Shogun
Posted: 3/10/08 at 12:34pm
I'd love to hear a recording. I remember much of it to be lovely, if not perfectly sung. I remember a miscast Philip Casnoff screeching beyond his range all night.
He hurt himself as well, if I recall.
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Updated On: 3/10/08 at 12:34 PM
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#7re: So...Shogun
Posted: 3/10/08 at 12:48pm
He was hit on the head by some falling scenery, but he recovered and came back to the show. Casnoff is his name.
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#8re: So...Shogun
Posted: 3/10/08 at 2:11pm
I've heard the song "One Candle". It's done if a few cabaret acts. It's on someone's cd but I'll have to check and see whose when I get home.
Now that I think about it, it was on Phillip Casnof's cd.
....but the world goes 'round
Updated On: 3/10/08 at 02:11 PM
#9re: So...Shogun
Posted: 3/10/08 at 2:54pm
"I remember a miscast Philip Casnove screeching beyond his range all night."
I remember Casnoff too, struggling to reach the high notes and never quite getting there. It was pretty painful to listen to. I don't really think he was miscast from an acting standpoint, but vocally he was all wrong for the part.
I actually went to a pre-production open "workshop" or "presentation" -- I'm not sure what you would call it -- a number of months prior to the opening. It was at the Marquis theatre, lasted about an hour, and was a mixed presentation of a few of the songs and a description of the work as it was progressing. At the time Peter Karrie (London Phantom) was attached to the role eventually played by Casnoff (i.e. the Richard Chamberlain role).
June Angela was wonderful, by the way. It's a shame the show wasn't worthy of her.
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This is wishing that a moment would arrive.
This is taking chances, this is almost touching, what the beauty is." --The Light in the Piazza
#10re: So...Shogun
Posted: 3/10/08 at 3:21pm
June Angela should come back to broadway!
and those of us of a certain age would remember her from The Electric Company.
"Carson has combined his passion for helping children with his love for one of Cincinnati's favorite past times - cornhole - to create a unique and exciting event perfect for a corporate outing, entertaining clients or family fun."
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
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