#1
Posted: 6/17/07 at 9:40pm
Believe the choreography award should have gone to Curtains or Mary Poppins
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#3
Posted: 6/17/07 at 9:50pm
THANK YOU!!! I thought I was the only one who thought that. You are so right. Mary Poppins should have one but with Curtains a VERY close second....I wish they had "runner-up" awards at the Tony's.
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#4
Posted: 6/17/07 at 9:54pm
I've not seen SA.
I have seen Mary Poppins and Curtains.
From what was shown at the Tonys, SA should not have received the award for choreography. By the looks of what I saw performed from SA at the Tonys I have less interest in seeing the show than ever before.
I have seen Mary Poppins and Curtains.
From what was shown at the Tonys, SA should not have received the award for choreography. By the looks of what I saw performed from SA at the Tonys I have less interest in seeing the show than ever before.
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#5
Posted: 6/17/07 at 9:58pm
Mary Poppins choreography was weak except step in time
LB should have got it as its choreography actually represents the characters and music and isn't just dance for the sake of dance.
Curtains had decent choreography to but poppins was lame
But SA DID not deserve it, as a dancer i was shocked when that won
LB should have got it as its choreography actually represents the characters and music and isn't just dance for the sake of dance.
Curtains had decent choreography to but poppins was lame
But SA DID not deserve it, as a dancer i was shocked when that won
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#6
Posted: 6/17/07 at 10:29pm
I think I understand why it won.
I can't imagine "Spring Awakening" without that choreography. At the same time, I can't imagine that choreography in ANY other show. It just seemed to be a part of the show.
I can't imagine "Spring Awakening" without that choreography. At the same time, I can't imagine that choreography in ANY other show. It just seemed to be a part of the show.
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#7
Posted: 6/17/07 at 10:32pm
No. It didn't deserve to win. Even if you're a fan of the show, you have to admit...there were clearly other candidates that had much more to the choreography and dancing than Spring Awakening.
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#8
Posted: 6/17/07 at 10:39pm
It's not about how much choreography a show has.
#9
Posted: 6/17/07 at 10:45pm
"It's not about how much choreography a show has"
No your right it's not, it's about if the choreography is the best of the season or advanced the story or propelled characters to a new level or left you thinking that the choreography stood out and sticks in your head.
Spring Awakenings didn't do any of the above, never mind been best of the season it wasn't even the best of the week
No your right it's not, it's about if the choreography is the best of the season or advanced the story or propelled characters to a new level or left you thinking that the choreography stood out and sticks in your head.
Spring Awakenings didn't do any of the above, never mind been best of the season it wasn't even the best of the week
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#10
Posted: 6/17/07 at 10:47pm
It probobly won because it is so different.
I was shocked when it won. But yes, when the award came up I said Spring Awakening would most likely not win...and it did. I was thinking, "Why?" Actually, the first time I saw the show, my reaction to the choreography was, "What the heck are they doing?"
The choreography is very unique and thats why I'm assuming it won.
I was shocked when it won. But yes, when the award came up I said Spring Awakening would most likely not win...and it did. I was thinking, "Why?" Actually, the first time I saw the show, my reaction to the choreography was, "What the heck are they doing?"
The choreography is very unique and thats why I'm assuming it won.
#11
Posted: 6/17/07 at 10:48pm
All the Spring Awakening kids do is mosh and touch themselves. I do both on a daily basis, does that mean that I get a Tony too?
#12
Posted: 6/17/07 at 10:52pm
"LB should have got it as its choreography actually represents the characters and music and isn't just dance for the sake of dance."
The SA choreography served this purpose too. The jumping and foot stomping represents the angst the teenagers are going through, and how they just want to let loose.
Nevertheless, I don't think SA deserved the best choreography Tony. It should've gone to Curtains - and I am not saying that because I enjoyed the show. I also would've been happy with Mary Poppins. I haven't seen LB.
The SA choreography served this purpose too. The jumping and foot stomping represents the angst the teenagers are going through, and how they just want to let loose.
Nevertheless, I don't think SA deserved the best choreography Tony. It should've gone to Curtains - and I am not saying that because I enjoyed the show. I also would've been happy with Mary Poppins. I haven't seen LB.
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#13
Posted: 6/17/07 at 11:11pm
I'm still angry Pirate Queen wasn't nominated for that. But, the Tony should have gone to Legally Blonde after the snubbing of Pirate Queen.
#14
Posted: 6/17/07 at 11:16pm
To address Songanddance's point:
Spring Awakening's choreography is waayy more character-driven than is Legally Blonde's. There may not have been much full-out dancing in Spring, but the movements that were there were specific to each character's personality-not everyone was "stomping", as its been put, in the same fashion. I thought that the choreography made up for the holes in the book of the show; the character development that we didn't get from the dialogue we got from the way the characters moved. I'd take character-specific movement like SA's over the other shows' cookie cutter choreography any day. Blonde's choreography was sometimes based on character, but not enough of the time to really contribute much to the story.
And the "it's not real dancing" thing is getting a bit old. Many people, of course, prefer pretty dance steps, which is totally fine and a perfectly valid preference, but there've been enough arguments on these boards about the general issue of whether or not SA's choreography qualifies as dancing over the past week to last several lifetimes, don't you think?
Now, if someone were to complain about why SA won orchestrations...that'd be a different story, but no one seems to be interested in that one.
Spring Awakening's choreography is waayy more character-driven than is Legally Blonde's. There may not have been much full-out dancing in Spring, but the movements that were there were specific to each character's personality-not everyone was "stomping", as its been put, in the same fashion. I thought that the choreography made up for the holes in the book of the show; the character development that we didn't get from the dialogue we got from the way the characters moved. I'd take character-specific movement like SA's over the other shows' cookie cutter choreography any day. Blonde's choreography was sometimes based on character, but not enough of the time to really contribute much to the story.
And the "it's not real dancing" thing is getting a bit old. Many people, of course, prefer pretty dance steps, which is totally fine and a perfectly valid preference, but there've been enough arguments on these boards about the general issue of whether or not SA's choreography qualifies as dancing over the past week to last several lifetimes, don't you think?
Now, if someone were to complain about why SA won orchestrations...that'd be a different story, but no one seems to be interested in that one.
#15
Posted: 6/17/07 at 11:19pm
yeah, I love me some SA, but a Tony for best choreo.? I would love to know who was smoking what when they decided to give SA this award
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#16
Posted: 6/17/07 at 11:25pm
OK anyone who says waayy looses me straight away.
Im guessing your a SA fan ?
Ive been a dancer and a choreographer for over 10 years and SA choreography is about as charter driven as the choreography in the muppet show!!
The choreography they have used represents teen angst , and more teen angst and more teen angst, it doesn't represent one character just a collective feeling what in my opinion is Lazy.
Curtains and LB develops its choreography around situations specific at the moment as well as the character(right down to a way the person stands and walks).
Mary poppins choreography is fun but flat.
I never said it had anything to do with "full out dancing" (some of the best choreography i have been involved with has been minimalist and representational) but the SA choreography was just flat out dull and lazy.
Im guessing your a SA fan ?
Ive been a dancer and a choreographer for over 10 years and SA choreography is about as charter driven as the choreography in the muppet show!!
The choreography they have used represents teen angst , and more teen angst and more teen angst, it doesn't represent one character just a collective feeling what in my opinion is Lazy.
Curtains and LB develops its choreography around situations specific at the moment as well as the character(right down to a way the person stands and walks).
Mary poppins choreography is fun but flat.
I never said it had anything to do with "full out dancing" (some of the best choreography i have been involved with has been minimalist and representational) but the SA choreography was just flat out dull and lazy.
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#17
Posted: 6/17/07 at 11:32pm
Hah, songanddance I don't know where you were in that theater, but even though Spring Awakening may not be that great of a show, one thing you can't call the choreography is lazy.
But then again, I don't know, anyone who toots their own horn like their special loses me straight away. Or loose me?
But then again, I don't know, anyone who toots their own horn like their special loses me straight away. Or loose me?
#18
Posted: 6/17/07 at 11:34pm
I agree that it isn't traditional "dancing". It's choreography, and though the term brings a picture of dance "moves" to the mind, it's just moving in general. In my opinion, it definetly has its place in the show.
#19
Posted: 6/17/07 at 11:36pm
"Now, if someone were to complain about why SA won orchestrations...that'd be a different story, but no one seems to be interested in that one."
I still think orchestrations should have gone to either LoveMusik or Grey Gardens and I think book should have gone to Grey Gardens, and choreography should have gone to Mary Poppins.
I still think orchestrations should have gone to either LoveMusik or Grey Gardens and I think book should have gone to Grey Gardens, and choreography should have gone to Mary Poppins.
#20
Posted: 6/17/07 at 11:43pm
ok songanddance, you didn't see the character specificity in SA and I didn't see it in LB. To each his own. But really, I don't see how it can represent a collective feeling when much of the time, the characters are each doing something different. It may have collectively contributed to one particular mood, if that's what you mean, but each character's movement contributed to that mood in a very specific way. The choreography was the only thing that gave me much insight into many of the minor characters, and for that I think it deserves praise. Sure, I'm an SA fan, but I don't think that precludes me from saying I enjoyed the choreography so long as I can back that up with reasons. There were aspects of the show I didn't like, but I thought the movement was one of the stronger pieces of the show.
And sorry about the waayy. It's late and my vocabulary-related judgment is wavering. Just be glad I didn't use five exclamation points or anything:)
And sorry about the waayy. It's late and my vocabulary-related judgment is wavering. Just be glad I didn't use five exclamation points or anything:)
#21
Posted: 6/17/07 at 11:51pm
I'm also wondering if the sex scene in SA would be considered blocking or "choreography". I would personally consider it "choreography" and would say that it adds to the beauty of the piece. I use quotes around choreography because they obviously weren't doing fouettes or anything.
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#22
Posted: 6/18/07 at 12:12am
Um, why would the sex scene be considered choreography? Is Raul walking to the piano and sitting down before "Being Alive" considered choreography?
#23
Posted: 6/18/07 at 12:13am
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#24
Posted: 6/18/07 at 12:14am
No that's just called crap.
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#25
Posted: 6/18/07 at 12:15am
But yeah, SA's choreography is more memorable than actually good, but isn't that at least something? Usually mediocre and serviceable is what wins Tonys.
Updated On: 6/18/07 at 12:15 AM
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