Soaring29 said: "No, I hate MAGA. Violence is never the solution. Period. Yes, he was a terrible person and I'm not in mourning for him but it doesn't justify him being killed."
Yes it did.
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despite the speculation from some of the clueless ppl who frequent this board
u can rest assured
when it comes to having a successful career
kristin chenoweth is doing just fine
no need to start composing her obituary or chisel her tombstone yet
she will continue to have her pick of projects whether they be from hollywood or broadway
her established status allows her to choose works that appeal to her without the financial concern that most of us grapple with
i will agree with the majority of the posters on here about one thing
the show sucked
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Georgeanddot2 said: "Soaring29 said: "No, I hate MAGA. Violence is never the solution. Period. Yes, he was a terrible person and I'm not in mourning for him but it doesn't justify him being killed."
Yes it did."
This is some edgelord **** I expect from a 15 year old but I know you're much older than that...
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Oh stfu and put the pearls down. That evil man had it coming
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QueenTwinnied said: "Oh stfu and put the pearls down. That evil man had it coming"
I'm not going to say he didn't have it coming, but that is not the same thing as "justified." If abhorrent speech is the line for justification for murder we're all danger, my Love. I thought the left was supposed to be against the death penalty?
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If his actions ended at "speech" we would probably be on the same page, but I fear you're one of those who doesn't actually know much about Kirk beyond "that conservative guy who debated college students."
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QueenTwinnied said: "If his actions ended at "speech" we would probably be on the same page, but I fear you're one of those who doesn't actually know much about Kirk beyond "that conservative guy who debated college students.""
I am very well aware of who Charlie Kirk is and what he does so that is how I know that what he does ends at "Speech." He uses speech to advocate for very ****ty things, but that is what it is. Can you tell me explicitly what actions he has done that were not just speech?
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kdogg36 said: "iluvtheatertrash said: "Congrats. You've played right into their playbook, making us the intolerant and violent left. Charlie was a creep. He was a terrible person. He did not deserve to be murdered in cold blood like that in front of people, including his wife and child. If we cannot say that about people we dislike then we have lost our humanity, too"
Then color me a proud non-human. I am very glad he got what he deserved. Every Trumper deserves the same treatment."
moderators - this is a person calling for the murder of about half the country. Are you sleeping at your desks???
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Why are we even discussing this here?
To get back to the topic at hand, the show flopped hard and won’t be heard from again for a VERY long time.
Can this thread (excuse the expression) die already, unless anyone has anything to add that is RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC AT HAND? 🙄
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MB124 said: "Why are we even discussing this here?
To get back to the topic at hand,the show flopped hard and won’t be heard from again for a VERY long time.
Can this thread (excuse the expression) die already, unless anyone has anything to add that is RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC AT HAND? 🙄"
Charlie Kirk was mentioned by someone because of Kristin's comments after his murder. Then people started saying he deserved it. I agree, it's off-topic, but I also think ignoring such outrageous statements and calls for more violence is not good.
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TheatreFan4 said: “I am very well aware of who Charlie Kirk is and what he does so that is how I know that what he does ends at "Speech." He uses speech to advocate for very ****ty things, but that is what it is. Can you tell me explicitly what actions he has done that werenot just speech?"
You’re trying to draw a moral line between speech and action as if the things he’s spent years organizing, funding, and mobilizing don’t count. Speech isn’t the end of the story when it’s paired with coordinated campaigns, targeted harassment ecosystems, and real world political machinery designed to strip rights from actual people. If you honestly think his influence stops at “just words,” you’re not describing reality, you’re describing your comfort zone. The consequences of his work don’t disappear just because he delivered them into a microphone.
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pmensky said: "You’re trying to draw a moral line between speech and action as if the things he’s spent years organizing, funding, and mobilizing don’t count. Speech isn’t the end of the story when it’s paired with coordinated campaigns, targeted harassment ecosystems, and real world political machinery designed to strip rights from actual people. If you honestly think his influence stops at “just words,” you’re not describing reality, you’re describing your comfort zone. The consequences of his work don’t disappear just because he delivered them into a microphone."
Great... so now we're justifying murder for organizing. If you feel it's justified why don't you go ahead and start doing it? Go use a gun to solve all your problems. If the bar is Charlie Kirk, there are much bigger fish to fry if you actually want to accomplish anything (or think that you're accomplishing something) Sounds incredibly intelligent with no downsides. Like I said, you're just spouting edgelord bull****.
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TheatreFan4 said: "pmensky said: "You’re trying to draw a moral line between speech and action as if the things he’s spent years organizing, funding, and mobilizing don’t count. Speech isn’t the end of the story when it’s paired with coordinated campaigns, targeted harassment ecosystems, and real world political machinery designed to strip rights from actual people. If you honestly think his influence stops at “just words,” you’re not describing reality, you’re describing your comfort zone. The consequences of his work don’t disappear just because he delivered them into a microphone."
Great... so now we're justifying murder for organizing. If you feel it's justified why don't you go ahead and start doing it? Go use a gun to solve all your problems. If the bar is Charlie Kirk, there are much bigger fish to fry if you actually want to accomplish anything (or think that you're accomplishing something)Sounds incredibly intelligent with no downsides. Like I said, you're just spouting edgelord bull****."
I never justified violence. You introduced that entirely on your own, and nothing in my statement supports it. The point was about the measurable political impact of coordinated advocacy, which exists whether you acknowledge it or not.
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TheatreFan4 said: "QueenTwinnied said: "If his actions ended at "speech" we would probably be on the same page, but I fear you're one of those who doesn't actually know much about Kirk beyond "that conservative guy who debated college students.""
I am very well aware of who Charlie Kirk is and what he does so that is how I know that what he does ends at "Speech." He uses speech to advocate for very ****ty things, but that is what it is. Can you tell me explicitly what actions he has done that werenot just speech?"
It really isn’t my responsibility or worth my time to educate someone as ignorant as you. If you actually care to learn (I doubt you do) this video is a great breakdown of why no one should be mourning the death of that evil man or criticizing those who refuse to. It’s a great overview for people like you who have no earthly idea what you’re talking about
https://youtu.be/unXhfSyk9h8?si=TsFMEyVNBJ89DJ0I
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